dealer cheats

[bisoy]

Have there been experiences of dealer cheats in some casinos? Wanted to know if anyone has experienced dealers who can manipulate the cards and deal you the losing hands for the casino advantage.

[Dopple]

I think I was cheated at the Potawotami casino in Milwaukee Wi.

The dealer put a very strong bend in the corner of a ten card for some reason.

I was counting cards and starting to win money.

I believe many casinos cheat.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by kevinheap

The dealer put a very strong bend in the corner of a ten card for some reason.

How did the dealer use the bend to cheat you?

Originally Posted by kevinheap

I believe many casinos cheat.

Do you think it was the casino or just the dealer?

-Sonny-

[avs21]

Originally Posted by kevinheap

I think I was cheated at the Potawotami casino in Milwaukee Wi.

The dealer put a very strong bend in the corner of a ten card for some reason.

I was counting cards and starting to win money.

I believe many casinos cheat.

It is irritating when you loose part of you bankroll to a cheating dealer! I have played a couple dealers I think cheated me.

[Dopple]

I dont know how they would use the bend but the dealer put it there for some reason. It could be to help clump all the tens together or as an aid when dealing seconds, I dont know.

If the dealer was cheating it would be to help the house.

I would think clumping the cards could be considered cheating because you are intervening to create a distribution of cards that is not random.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by kevinheap

If the dealer was cheating it would be to help the house.

Not necessarily. Probably the majority of cheating is done by dealers who are in it for themselves. Usually it involves a partner or a team of some sort on the other side of the tables. I doubt that any casino would purposely instruct their dealers to cheat the players in order to win a little more money.

If you notice a dealer bending or marking a card (probably to use as a break) then you should call over a pit boss. Tell him that one of the cards is bent and he will replace it right away. The last thing a pit boss wants is marked cards in a live game. After all, it would be just as easy for the players to use it to cheat with as the dealer.

-Sonny-

[moo321]

I spotted marked cards at a charity poker game at a church this last weekend. Someone had literally taken a pencil or something very similar and marked 2 low cards. It was weird, and very amateur.

[InPlay]

Originally Posted by Dopple

I dont know how they would use the bend but the dealer put it there for some reason. It could be to help clump all the tens together or as an aid when dealing seconds, I dont know.

If the dealer was cheating it would be to help the house.

I would think clumping the cards could be considered cheating because you are intervening to create a distribution of cards that is not random.

You think the dealer gets paid on commission or profit sharing don't you ?

[prankster]

Moo-
stay far away from those church games!

[airfree]

Ever heard of Shill

SHILL

In the game of Blackjack, the term "shill" means someone who is playing for the house. While this is certainly a practice not done everywhere, some casinos have been known to have employees play with what really was house money in order to make a table appear more crowded and hence perhaps more inviting for other players to play at. Unless shills cheat, they of course do not affect the odds at blackjack. So one could argue that the basic game odds really do not matter much if there is a shill playing at the table, or if the table is made up totally of customers.

I played once in a casino and was doing ok. Then they changed the dealer.
The dealer kept on dealing me small cards and he kept on getting face cards not once but about 9 or 10 times in a row. I couldn't believe it. I kept on playing knowing the face cards will be coming but still kept on getting the low cards dealt to me. I honestly feel that the dealer was called in by the house to take care of me. I dropped my BR 5k in less than an hour. Being stupid to realize it's not possible, had to be a bad streak. But I know somehow I was taken for a ride. I never went back to this casino LV. I'd like to tell you where it is, but I'd rather not say. I just know it's impossible to lose all your hands getting low cards all the time. I wasn't familiar with magicians pushing cards to their advantage house. This happened many years ago 7 and I hope this dealer is not dealing anymore. But I haven't returned to this specific casino. Can a dealer be a shill.. I think so...