You snooze; you lose! Re: "Delta" in shuffling and dealing procedures

[Tico]

Trackers Alerts: At least a few casinos have changed their procedures in shuffling and dealing, i.e, Casino123 has spent 10 minutes on retraining each of its bj dealers on how to defeat trackers. Casino456 also has re-invented the toughest procedures to beat trackers, & its bottom line speaks for itself, i.e., 456's bj winnings have gone through the roof recently. If you snooze, you will lose! If you have been beaten badly in the last 40 days (especially in Casino456), now you know why.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Tico

If you have been beaten badly in the last 40 days (especially in Casino456), now you know why.

You mean "trackers who have been beaten" or ANY counters? zg

[Pelerus]

Originally Posted by Tico

Trackers Alerts: At least a few casinos have changed their procedures in shuffling and dealing, i.e, Casino123 has spent 10 minutes on retraining each of its bj dealers on how to defeat trackers. Casino456 also has re-invented the toughest procedures to beat trackers, & its bottom line speaks for itself, i.e., 456's bj winnings have gone through the roof recently. If you snooze, you will lose! If you have been beaten badly in the last 40 days (especially in Casino456), now you know why.

Wait... implementing a more complex and time consuming shuffle has increased their bottom line? Since that implies less hands per hour, and since profitable shuffle trackers make up less than 1 in 10,000 casino patrons, wouldn't the opposite be the case?

Or maybe that was your point all along. :

[1357111317]

[QUOTE=Pelerus;211041], and since profitable shuffle trackers make up less than 1 in 10,000 casino patrons, wouldn't the opposite be the case?

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I think more accurate numbers would be 1 in 10k are profitable COUNTERS. My guess is that profitible trackers are closer to 1 in 100k.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Pelerus

, and since profitable shuffle trackers make up less than 1 in 10,000 casino patrons, wouldn't the opposite be the case?

Originally Posted by 1357111317

I think more accurate numbers would be 1 in 10k are profitable COUNTERS. My guess is that profitible trackers are closer to 1 in 100k.

That's why I'm asking him who-what he's talking about??
Trained trackers who couldn't tell the difference?? Or counters in general?? zg

[Blue Efficacy]

[QUOTE=1357111317;211043]

Originally Posted by Pelerus

, and since profitable shuffle trackers make up less than 1 in 10,000 casino patrons, wouldn't the opposite be the case?

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I think more accurate numbers would be 1 in 10k are profitable COUNTERS. My guess is that profitible trackers are closer to 1 in 100k.

Surely you exaggerate!

[Jack_Black]

How can I send you a PM, Tico? it seems as if you have them turned off. I am curious to know which casinos you are talking about.

also, a tracker would notice the change right away, since they have to eyeball and follow the slugs throughout the shuffle process.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Jack_Black

How can I send you a PM, Tico? it seems as if you have them turned off. I am curious to know which casinos you are talking about.

Don't go PM on us, Tico. We asked good questions that I am confident you can enlighten us. zg

[Pelerus]

[QUOTE=Blue Efficacy;211055]

Originally Posted by 1357111317

Surely you exaggerate!

His estimate may not be far off, since I understated to avoid belaboring the point. There is a big difference between people who may have dabbled in tracking or who style themselves "shuffle trackers" and those who are truly able to show a consistent profit through tracking. It is notoriously easy to deceive oneself into thinking that one has an advantage tracking, when in truth the high cards just aren't showing up. This has been the case even with relatively high profile teams who tried it.

[Ferretnparrot]

[QUOTE=1357111317;211043]

Originally Posted by Pelerus

, My guess is that profitible trackers are closer to 1 in 100k.

I recently used the same figure making the same argument abou the same topic commenting on youtube this week