Trapped inside the crash of 2011

[aslan]

Originally Posted by shadroch

Then you get goobers complaing about the gubernmint sticking their noses into things like school lunchs and stopping people from their constitutional right to feed their children Happy Meals. On the one hand, you have people who want to bring child abuse charges against parents that feed their kids a steady diet of fast foods, and on the other you have people fighting for their right to raise obese children.

Which side are you on?

[aslan]

Originally Posted by QFIT

Yes, study economic history. Pure capitalism fails miserably. Look at the South American countries in the 60s, or many African nations. Pure socialism also fails miserably. All pure systems fail. That's why the US has had aspects of socialism for nearly a century. That's why Europe has succeeded brilliantly with aspects of socialism, and has surpassed the US in economic success. We must take the best of all theories. Why blind yourself to statistics that show the US has been losing ground in education, longevity, infant mortality, happiness factors, economic strength, and good will for decades?

I don't think for a minute that socialism has improved our form of capitalism. If anything, it has hurt it. On the other hand, government regulation is necessary to keep capitalism from becoming harmful to society, as in the case of monopolies; but that is not socialism. When I say socialism, I am referring to government taking the role that should go to business in a capitalist society. Social security is socialistic because it is mandating a government retirement annuity for all citizens. I believe the government's role should be limited to the poor who cannot afford commercial products to meet their retirement needs.

[Friendo]

Originally Posted by aslan

I don't think for a minute that socialism has improved our form of capitalism. If anything, it has hurt it.

Have the past 75 years of nearly unparalleled growth in standards of living and prosperity in the United States been an illusion?

[Jack_Black]

Originally Posted by aslan

I don't think for a minute that socialism has improved our form of capitalism. If anything, it has hurt it.

I agree, corporate socialism has hurt our form of capitalism. bailouts, fed loans at 0% interest, subsidies and govt contracts have all been bad for the little guy. not to mention writing laws with earmarks attached, or blatant law writing that only help businesses that contribute(bribe) to politicians. Re: UIGEA, in part sponsored by US casinos and sportsbooks.

[QFIT]

Originally Posted by aslan

I don't think for a minute that socialism has improved our form of capitalism. If anything, it has hurt it.

Have we been harmed by Social Security, Medicare, public schools, libraries, sewage treatment, the national park system, courts, public colleges and universities, fire departments, police departments, the postal service, the national highway system, air traffic control, Hoover Dam, the Tennessee Valley Authority, the eradication of Small Pox, NASA, the Internet?