Originally Posted by moo321
You're thinking surrender. This is an automatic push.
Also, as the count increases the bust chance increases with low upcards, so these will eventually cross 50%, meaning you should not back out a stiff vs. that upcard.
Yes you are correct moo, you described it clearly, in this situation its a chance to take a push. And my bad also on the %, meant -0.005 EV, and not -0.05 EV.
Was thinking of another situation where taking a negative EV situation that is better than the expected average negative EV.