Witnessed a ploppy get backed off

Most Interesting Man

Most Interesting Man

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But it's not what you would think. This person was so far beyond drunk. It kept security and the pit and they eye all busy. And when they came to take the drink away ploppy guzzled it all. What a mess.
 
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21forme

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Lonesome Gambler said:
I recently saw a civilian get the boot for being too drunk/rowdy. This was around noon on a Sunday.
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He was probably winning. Ever see a drunk loser get thrown out?

I remember once at the Borg seeing a drunk playing multiple hands of chunky black and losing big-time. The drinks kept coming.
 
aslan

aslan

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I was at a table where a drunk was loud and nasty, but flashing a large bankroll and losing it quickly. He was bothering me, and everyone else at the table, but the pit treated him with kid gloves and unwarranted courtesy. When I decided to move to another table to get away from this obnoxious fellow, the pit indicated I was doing the smart thing... but I could tell that he could care less about me and the others at the table, focusing only on keeping this drunken fool happy and blowing his cash. Sometimes you get to glimpse behind the casino facade, but we all know the truth anyway even if they do a great job of covering it up.

I wonder how much casinos actually make. We know the mob-controlled casinos used to skim like crazy and still the casinos made profits. How do they hide obscene profits today? Is it by building these several billion dollar edifices filled with expensive art work and elaborate amenities so that the profits never show up on the bottom line, instead it all goes to pay off their indebtedness. I wonder how these construction and furnishing contracts are designed? Are some of them secret conduits for draining off revenues from the casinos through "legitimate" business arrangements with secretly insider companies? I don't know. As a former auditor, I am always suspicious, especially when the history and culture of an industry is rife with fraud and double dealing. Personally, I wouldn't want to do an audit of Vegas or AC casinos; I'm afraid I might end up in a hole in the desert or washing up on the Jersey shore. Or do you think I am being overly suspicious?
 
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tthree

Banned
aslan said:
I was at a table where a drunk was loud and nasty, but flashing a large bankroll and losing it quickly. He was bothering me, and everyone else at the table, but the pit treated him with kid gloves and unwarranted courtesy. When I decided to move to another table to get away from this obnoxious fellow, the pit indicated I was doing the smart thing... but I could tell that he could care less about me and the others at the table, focusing only on keeping this drunken fool happy and blowing his cash. Sometimes you get to glimpse behind the casino facade, but we all know the truth anyway even if they do a great job of covering it up.

I wonder how much casinos actually make. We know the mob-controlled casinos used to skim like crazy and still the casinos made profits. How do they hide obscene profits today? Is it by building these several billion dollar edifices filled with expensive art work and elaborate amenities so that the profits never show up on the bottom line, instead it all goes to pay off their indebtedness. I wonder how these construction and furnishing contracts are designed? Are some of them secret conduits for draining off revenues from the casinos through "legitimate" business arrangements with secretly insider companies? I don't know. As a former auditor, I am always suspicious, especially when the history and culture of an industry is rife with fraud and double dealing. Personally, I wouldn't want to do an audit of Vegas or AC casinos; I'm afraid I might end up in a hole in the desert or washing up on the Jersey shore. Or do you think I am being overly suspicious?
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What do you think the $2,000/night rooms are about. The $600 dinners. Comping you a bottle of champagne for $300 that you can buy in the store for $60. Out of one pocket and into the other. What profit we had to cover all those expensive comps.
 
FLASH1296

FLASH1296

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Some years ago I saw a drunk ploppy, losing
heavily, throw his drink in a Pit Critter's face,
ice and all, and follow it up with a right to the jaw.

They didn't throw him out !

That was at Turning Stone Casino, near Syracuse, NY
 
Wookets

Wookets

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FLASH1296 said:
Some years ago I saw a drunk ploppy, losing
heavily, throw his drink in a Pit Critter's face,
ice and all, and follow it up with a right to the jaw.

They didn't throw him out !

That was at Turning Stone Casino, near Syracuse, NY
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Makes you wonder what else this guy could have gotten away with.
 
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Freightman

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Most Interesting Man said:
But it's not what you would think. This person was so far beyond drunk. It kept security and the pit and they eye all busy. And when they came to take the drink away ploppy guzzled it all. What a mess.
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Getting kicked out for being a drunk obnoxious jerk and upsetting other patrons is not a backoff for being to good. It's exactly what it sounds like - being kicked out for being drunk, obnoxious and upsetting other patrons. Even casinos have their limits.
 
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zoomie

Well-Known Member
FLASH1296 said:
Some years ago I saw a drunk ploppy, losing
heavily, throw his drink in a Pit Critter's face,
ice and all, and follow it up with a right to the jaw.

They didn't throw him out !

That was at Turning Stone Casino, near Syracuse, NY
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And he had to work at it to get drunk, as they only serve booze in restaurants, not on the floor. Gambling age there is 18.
 
Most Interesting Man

Most Interesting Man

Well-Known Member
FLASH1296 said:
Some years ago I saw a drunk ploppy, losing
heavily, throw his drink in a Pit Critter's face,
ice and all, and follow it up with a right to the jaw.

They didn't throw him out !

That was at Turning Stone Casino, near Syracuse, NY
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I see you've got only great things to say about Turning Stone. :laugh:
 
aslan

aslan

Well-Known Member
FLASH1296 said:
Some years ago I saw a drunk ploppy, losing
heavily, throw his drink in a Pit Critter's face,
ice and all, and follow it up with a right to the jaw.

They didn't throw him out !

That was at Turning Stone Casino, near Syracuse, NY
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Nor should they. I hope he didn't get a cut in pay either?! :rolleyes: He was only doing his job! :grin:

:joker: Say goodnight, Gracey.
 
FLASH1296

FLASH1296

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Plenty of drunks to be found.

He either entered drunk,
had liquor in his room,
or he had a hip flask.

doh'
 
MetaEdge

MetaEdge

Member
Are casinos really so stupid that they would choose to kick out a winning player for being drunk, but allow an equally drunk losing player to stay?

By this logic, the best card counter in the world experiencing negative variance would be considered a worse player then the worst blackjack player in the world experiencing positive variance.

"Hence it seems unlikely that any but the deliberately destructive could give the house more than a 15% edge"

-Theory of Blackjack by Peter A. Griffin

It would probably take a lot of variance for this to happen I guess.
 
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mica

Active Member
High risk profession?

FLASH1296 said:
Some years ago I saw a drunk ploppy, losing
heavily, throw his drink in a Pit Critter's face,
ice and all, and follow it up with a right to the jaw.

They didn't throw him out !

That was at Turning Stone Casino, near Syracuse, NY
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Incredible! And frightening! I don't care how much money he was losing...criminal behavior should not be tolerated. Wonder what the outcome would have been if the drunk had assaulted another player instead of an employee?
 
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