System Scammer of the Week?

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For any of you supposed Pros and or Doubting Thomases I'll be more than happy to arrange a conference call with myself INTERCASINO and Ken Smith for the purpose of verifinying that everything that I've posted here incident to the posted run at INTERCASINO is absolutely factual.

Have a good one.

Cipher

...Or you could answer some of my previous questions...still waiting...:sleep:

-Sonny-

Your losses are infrequent according to that chart, but I also see that they are much larger than your wins. I see at least a loss for 800, and one for over 1000 that busted you out of InterCasino.

Mine too. Hmmm...

10,000,000 hands in 9 years = 1,111,111 hands per year

His records indicate that he plays 80-120 hands per hour so we’ll say that he averages 100 hands per hour.

1,111,111 hands / 100 hands per hour = 11,111 hours per year = 463 days per year.

That sounds a bit fishy to me. :fish:

-Sonny-

When was the first Internet Casino opened On-Line?

Gee, Maybe these wins ought to do a lot to offset any losses that your talking about at INTER. I wonder if this is the reason that BET365 changed their wager window from $1 to 2,000.00 on Single Player Surrender Blackjack to $1 to $500.00 and $5.00 to $1,500.00? Nah, who'd of thunk it?

Nough said?

Have a good one.

Cipher

By the way those Screenshots are verifiable as well

Yeah, but do you see a pattern that your wins are considerably larger than your losses. That's because you are using a progressive betting system. You will win much more often than you lose, but when you lose it is for more than your wins are.

It will catch up with you someday. I can see you're not really an advantage player since you play online not taking the bonuses, and you also like to play slots I see. I hope you don't think that you have found a way to beat them as well! Just face it, you're just a gambler, a gambler that happens to be winning right now. Because you know, even gamblers win occassionally!

Thats 463 days playing 24/7? Than it would be more like 25-30 years for what he claimed 9 years. zg

Yup.

-Sonny-

And that, was my point. Possibly the 10,000,000 hands was exagerated a bit?

About progressions, variance, and anecdotal evidence

Many years ago I ran some simulations of progressive systems. These are very high variance systems, and very hard for normal simulators to handle. I wrote a program called the "progression analyzer" and posted it at my old web site but had to take it down because it kept on showing that the player was winning at a rate of 5% or more. The problem was that no one ran my program long enough to see the eventuality and certainty of losing, they just ran it long enough to justify their crazy short-term ideas and then posted screen shots to the Internet.

Here is one way to look at the variance...

If a single blackjack player plays 1 million hands of basic strategy play, it is a very safe bet that he has lost money. If you had 100 basic strategy players, it is a safe bet that 99 out of the 100 have lost money after 1,000,000 hands of play.

But, for progression players the numbers are different. It may be that 99 out of the 100 MADE money with the progression system after 1,000,000 hands, but the person who lost, lost big. That person lost enough to more than make up for the other 99 winners.

I am just ballparking these estimates of win/loss ratios.

So, when you use a progression system, and that unlikely event does not occur, then you win. But, the person who suffers that unlikely event is wiped out. It is a system that is extremely dangerous, and it is definitely playing with a disadvantage, but you can still easily win with it over the course of 1 million hands or more.

All of these statements are in the context of a player with a very large bankroll who is playing at a table with very large table limits. I am sure Norm W. could do justice to these estimates for the martingale system.

Cipher, why do you feel the need to convince us? You've obviously got a cash-cow on your hands. Forget about us losers and go make millions.

And for everyone who's mentioning progressions, I haven't really looked at Cipher's strategy but I'm pretty sure it's not a progression. At least that's not how it came across at the beginning of this thread.

Switchback to FractalClump!

It was an embellishment only to make a point of emphasis on the heroic amount of hands-on research performed in an area where computers are of negligible value. Forget longterm analysis - all gambling is done in the short-term! Live in the now! Switchback to FractalClump! Its time for thwe world to take notice: CIPHER BJ RULES! zg:devil:

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World Gaming News

Top Gambling Experts Form New Company
to Assault Casinos

By R.U. Sirius

Gambling Newswire, Oct. 23, 1999, Atlantic City, NJ - The legalized casino industry was dealt a severe blow today with the announcement that two of the most feared expert gamblers/researchers in the world have joined forces. Ron "Boris" Fitch and Doug Grant™ have formed Fractals R Us Publishing™ and have simultaneously announced a breakthrough in the development of winning systems for table games.

Grant, best known as the most successful winning blackjack player and team organizer in the history of casino gaming has also been a tireless champion against casino cheating and bogus sellers of worthless card-counting systems. Fitch, who prefers to be called Boris, is the developer of the top-rated blackjack simulation software of the same name.

"Until now, players of blackjack and other table games were at the mercy of a RICO conspiracy between the casinos and the pathetic conmen system hustlers," says Grant, "this changes everything!" he gleefully exclaims.

"I have found a worthy partner and a brilliant associate," proclaimed Boris, "now will be the beginning of a new era in science-advantage gambling!"

Unveiled at a press conference held at the Claridge Resort and Casino on the beautiful Atlantic City Boardwalk was the new collaborative FractalClump™ ‘RadiatingBias® blackjack system,’ a first ever focused-distillation of the combined genius of the two brilliant game-strategists. "Counting doesn’t work, as I have emphasized for years," Grant continued, "the casino game of blackjack is non-linear, but thru the relatively simple application of our patented fractal algorithm, Fractalrithm® players can predetermine the winning table for play and preset the amount that they desire to win."

"FractalClump™ is a most amazing discovery, and based upon the highest universal pattern," Boris went on to elaborate, "it is unlike anything ever devised for winning at casino table games and will have devastating effects on the gaming industry even as it benefits mankind as a whole."

Also present was Donald Trump, owner of The Claridge. "I am so excited about what this will mean to the customers that play at my casinos that I have decided to give the system to every player who stays at a Trump resort." "Yes," the darling Donald continued, "our casinos will lose money to every player who utilizes the easy to learn FractalClump™ system, BUT we will make it up in action!" The ever-smiling Donald proclaimed this new alignment with the noteworthy system scientists to be "a huge victory and win-win-win for all involved - players, Trump shareholders, and me of course."

Originally incorporated as 2+2=Uh? Publishing, the name was changed last week to reflect the company's new direction.

Also present, and indicative of the huge collaborative effort that lead to the fractal-gambling breakthrough, were the key board members of the Fractals R Us Publishing™ unit, Jerry Patterson, E. Clifton Davis, Ronald Dahl, David Popik, and the chair of the company’s advisory board, Dr. Morton Jacobs.

"The day of the FractalClumpers has arrived!" explains the company’s press secretary, Thomas Bolick, as Boris and Grant hold each other's hand high in a traditional victory stance to a bursting array of photoflash.

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That alsmost makes it justified to do it, cause I know I won't be that unlucky 1/100 SOB! zg

The fact that the owner of a casino endorsed it makes one wonder how good the fractalclump system is!

Don't knock it till you've tried it! zg(fractalrithmist)

On the alternative earth that Trump owns The Claridge on.,casinos exist to please their clients.Unless Trump owns stock in Harrahs,he has no connection to the Claridge on our earth.

Thats an old release. Did he own it in 99? Makes no difference in the CIPHERBJ Fractalverse! zg