A question for big players

shiznites

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#3
I actually train in mixed martial arts (specifically brazillian jiu jitsu and muay thai kickboxing) so I'd pity fool who'd try to take my stack of red and green chips :laugh:
 

johndoe

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#5
Of course you have to worry, and take precautions. Everyone should have appropriate training and skills with self defense, regardless. And that includes all legal tools available.
 

Deathclutch

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#7
shiznites said:
I actually train in mixed martial arts (specifically brazillian jiu jitsu and muay thai kickboxing) so I'd pity fool who'd try to take my stack of red and green chips :laugh:
Do you fight in MMA also? I have a couple matches under my belt, I've been training for two years now.
 

FLASH1296

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#8
On Robbery

In Atlantic City there is a local "cottage industry" that works as follows:

A spotter hangs-out near the cashier's cage.

He appears to be doing nothing of interest, after all, what is suspicious about cell phones ?

When he sees a single person cashing out a lot of $$, (especially a slow-moving or frail-looking person),
he communicates a description of the cash-carrying "victim" to his posse - including what pocket the cash is in.

The rest is just as you'd imagine.
 

shiznites

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#10
Deathclutch said:
Do you fight in MMA also? I have a couple matches under my belt, I've been training for two years now.
Unfortunately competition really isn't for me (at least not yet).. been training for less than a year under Matt Serra.

You've gotta be pretty badass to step into the cage! No one f*** with Deathclutch! :p
 

FLASH1296

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#11
If you are concerned, it is a good idea to carry a "throwaway wallet"

Just a dirt cheap wallet stuffed with business cards and a bunch of small bills.

If mugged just instantly pull it out, drop it, and flee.

Keep your bankroll hidden, with one or two "buy-ins" handy.
 

QFIT

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#12
FLASH1296 said:
If you are concerned, it is a good idea to carry a "throwaway wallet"

Just a dirt cheap wallet stuffed with business cards and a bunch of small bills.

If mugged just instantly pull it out, drop it, and flee.

Keep your bankroll hidden, with one or two "buy-ins" handy.
Reminds me. I've been alone in the red-light district of Rio de Janeiro, a famously dangerous area, prowling the streets at night in Sao Paolo, in an underground club in Kowloon, China, an after-hours joint in Bangkok, and many other odd places without problem. But, I got mugged once in Philadelphia of all places. I had a throw-away wallet. But, the guy's fist was nearly the size of my head. Trapped in a nine-square foot area between a door and escalator, one hit cut my face in three places and bashed my head against a concrete wall and I just grabbed my real wallet and handed it over. So much for the throw-away.

But, I chased him down. Yelled "Hey." He stopped and turned. "Throw me the wallet." He laughed and ran on. "Hey." He stopped and turned again. "Take out the money and throw me the wallet." He laughed, took out the cash and threw me the wallet. With my paycheck, credit cards, license etc. I had plenty of other cash in my pockets.
 

kewljason

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#16
QFIT said:
Reminds me. I've been alone in the red-light district of Rio de Janeiro, a famously dangerous area, prowling the streets at night in Sao Paolo, in an underground club in Kowloon, China, an after-hours joint in Bangkok, and many other odd places without problem. But, I got mugged once in Philadelphia of all places. I had a throw-away wallet. But, the guy's fist was nearly the size of my head. Trapped in a nine-square foot area between a door and escalator, one hit cut my face in three places and bashed my head against a concrete wall and I just grabbed my real wallet and handed it over. So much for the throw-away.

But, I chased him down. Yelled "Hey." He stopped and turned. "Throw me the wallet." He laughed and ran on. "Hey." He stopped and turned again. "Take out the money and throw me the wallet." He laughed, took out the cash and threw me the wallet. With my paycheck, credit cards, license etc. I had plenty of other cash in my pockets.

He showed ya some "brotherly love". :) I hate that ur "habit" of being in bad places caught up with you in my adopted, current home of Philly. (having just this week bought a condo in LV, it's now only my parttime home), but it's a great place. Just has a bad rep. and like so many other places has bad areas, but also has great, fun, safe areas.
 

kewljason

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#17
There have been some silly responses in this thread. Talk of martial arts. Silliness. Bullets vs skin and bones?? I am not a gambling man, but.... Even if you are SOO good that you are comfortable that you can win this odds-on confrontatinon 90% of the time....well those odds are too short for me. Smith and Wesson? really? are you a federal agent? a cop? licensed to carry in all juristictions that you play? If not, as most of us aren't, even if you are lucky enough to win this "shootout", the legal expenses will far out way the advantages.

Personally, I concur with Flash. Perhaps we read the same material on the "give up wallet". Only stipulation I wish to add is, have more than a few dollars in it. I have no problem giving up 40 or 50 bucks to save my bankroll. (has only happened to me once) $40/50 bucks is a few cab rides. But don't go cheap and have a giveup wallet with $3 and some religous material in it. You may just piss of some gun toting desperate individual.

I learned this on the last night of my last job nearly 6 years ago. I was working a retail job, midnight to 8am shift. 45 minutes into my shift, I was looking down the barrel of a gun for the second time in 6 month. I had no problem giving up the money in the cash register. Wasn't my money and I wasn't looking to be a hero for $11 an hour that I was earning. The problem, was, I hadn't made a sale on my shift yet. :( The cash register contained $30 in change, ones and a couple 5's, which was the starting amount per shift. I handed the register drawer to the gun toting individual and tried to explain the situation. Mean while the dirty barrel of this crackhead's gun waved in my face and this strung out drug addict literly shook as his glazed eyes stared at me, not believing me. I knew I was about to die, simply because I hadn't made it worth his while to "go away". Well, that night was my luckiest night to date, as the crackhead folded, grabed the cash draw, droping most of it on his way out the door. The lesson learned: give up enough to make 'em go away. They are only looking for enough to get their next fix, but don't insult a desperate animal. You are worth more than that. At least I know I am. :)
 

psyduck

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#18
This country (US) is flooded with guns. I personally believe this is the root of so many violent crimes. Sure one can argue that "guns do not kill people. People from Texas kill people".
 

JulieCA

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#19
Hmmm... interesting discussion. It's always in the back of my mind coming/going to a casino that there has to be some people lurking about waiting for some opportunity.

The experience in Philly - was that at/around a casino?

There's a fair amount of security bicycling around the parking lots and garages at the local SoCal casinos. Vegas - not so much and the crowds would also be conducive to thieves.
 

QFIT

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#20
JulieCA said:
The experience in Philly - was that at/around a casino?
In a connecting tunnel between the train station and subway system. A completely deserted and dumb place to be at night on a holiday.
 
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