Adelaide Casino all now CSM

#1
Very unhappy! The main floor use to be CSM, but upstairs on Friday and Saturdays, you could find a shoe game. Went last weekend, and notice every single table now use the CSM's. When I asked someone about it, they said it is now "standard procedure within all casino's in Australia". So, is card counting dead in Australia? Or Adelaide at least?

I've only just gotten into card counting, and seems it may have been just at the wrong time!
 

Koz1984

Well-Known Member
#2
You need to frequent the VIP rooms. This is definitely the case in Adelaide and Brisbane. Crown's Premier BJ uses shoes, and all of Tassie is shoe based (and the best in the country). Not sure about the others.
 
#3
Working the CSMs

I am starting to feel sympathetic for the players in Australia for having bad conditions with the casinos switching to CSMs and offering little to no regular shoe games.

Am also getting to the point of releasing sensitive information about how to beat the CSMs, because of my increasing dis-interest of playing to beat the casinos to make money the easy way.

However, I have been contemplating on writing a book on how to use
special techniques on the CSMs that uses no card counting, hole carding,
ace sequencing, or other techniques that are out there that 'say' they
have it going with that system.

These techniques are absolutely positively simple -- that a monkey can
do this and make money. They also would make Surveillance, the PCs and CEs tremble with worry once an AP got ahold of these skills. Moreover, I have not yet decided to work on 'the other side' as a consultant for the casinos as there is too much greed involved.

If I feel you are worthy of more information -- you must tell me why you
deserve these techniques that I have discovered. You may e-mail me
at :

C*SMith -- International Team of Hackers.

-- [email protected]
 

StudiodeKadent

Well-Known Member
#4
Personally, I'd be able to tolerate CSMs if the games had lower house edges and they used at least a 1-deck discard tray to give the games some variance (lets say, 1 deck discard for a 5 deck game, 2 deck discard for a 6 deck game).

But, no, all casinos are run by monopolies that are enforced by the State. Which means the only competition that exists is for the high-limit market (since the high-limit gamblers can fly to other states). Which means the "little guy" that these laws claim to protect is the person that gets shafted the most.

CSMs offer only one benefit beyond ASM+Shoe, and that's game protection. However, they are extremely expensive, remove variance from the game (thus making it more boring) and ultimately they cost more money than they save.

But unfortunately, Casinos are revenue-raising devices for profligate state governments. Thus, they won't improve the conditions because that would (according to them) lower their tax take.

They'd get more money from demonopolizing the gambling industry, but if they did that the Moral Guardians would be all over them screaming that "the pokies take food out of the mouths of hungry children."

I'd think if anything, the State most likely to have a reasonable chance at reforming gambling policy is Queensland. The state government is in a dire situation and needs tax revenue, the economy has a large tourism sector already. But, unfortunately, Queensland is also full of moralizers.
 
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