1357111317
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I was just wondering if anyone downloaded those BJmath EV charts for each hand before it went down. If anyone has a copy of those would they like to send me a copy of them?
They are like Don's tables, except one decimal short lol.1357111317 said:They are probably like the ones in blackjack attack. The BJmath ones show every 3 card combination and and expected value of each possible play, Hit, Stand, Double, split and I am not sure about surrender although it wouldnt matter since surrender is always -.5.
which rule set are you looking for, sd,dd, 6d h17 s17?1357111317 said:I was just wondering if anyone downloaded those BJmath EV charts for each hand before it went down. If anyone has a copy of those would they like to send me a copy of them?
The charts are for off the top EVs. If you want the EV for every hand vs. every dealer upcard at every count, ask Qfit.1357111317 said:Now i doubt that these would exist but are there EV charts for every hand at different counts and not just off the top?
I haven't seen the type of charts your looking but in CVData you can bring up the report that indicates win rate per hand type. The results would at the very least provide you with some expectation value per hand type. It does not provide splitting/doubling/standing independant results that I can find anywhere.1357111317 said:Now i doubt that these would exist but are there EV charts for every hand at different counts and not just off the top?
The underlying assumption here is that the count is a rock-solid piece of information. It's not. Here are two images that both show a HiLo TC of +2. The difference between the two overall EVs is a full 1.3%.1357111317 said:Now i doubt that these would exist but are there EV charts for every hand at different counts and not just off the top?
Which is exactly why I have often said that representative subsets are not useful. And why the CVData index generator provides the data assuming all possible subsets according to their frequencies.Canceler said:The underlying assumption here is that the count is a rock-solid piece of information. It's not. Here are two images that both show a HiLo TC of +2. The difference between the two overall EVs is a full 1.3%.
Here they are. You can combine them into one sheet if you want.1357111317 said:They are probably like the ones in blackjack attack. The BJmath ones show every 3 card combination and and expected value of each possible play, Hit, Stand, Double, split and I am not sure about surrender although it wouldnt matter since surrender is always -.5.
What is the probability of drawing each rank at a given HiLo running count/pen combination? In your first image specifically 24 sixes, 4 fives, and 18 tens were removed yielding a +10 running count with 266 cards remaining. But what would be the probabilities if we just set the condition to be a HiLo running count of +10 with 266 cards remaining and nothing specifically removed? In that case there would be many different possible HiLo subsets, each with a different probability of occurring. When each subset is weighted according to its probability, the probability of drawing each rank is a floating point number as shown in the attached image. So the theoretical HiLo comp for a +10/266 card slug dealt from 6 decks is:Canceler said:The underlying assumption here is that the count is a rock-solid piece of information. It's not. Here are two images that both show a HiLo TC of +2. The difference between the two overall EVs is a full 1.3%.
2-6 266 * .07309 = 19.44 each, 97.21 total
7-9 266 * .07716 = 20.52 each, 61.57 total
10 266 * .32245 = 85.77 each, 85.77 total
A 266 * .08061 = 21.44 each, 21.44 total