The Tip?

blackchipjim

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#1
I know we have gone on ad infitinum about the tipping issue as it relates to playing bj. This is a question about non-bj tipping. I have always thought that a 1% tip is generous on large jackpots to the help so to speak. What is the general consensous on this conundrum. If this is a regular haunt or not what is your take on it?
 

Dyepaintball12

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#2
I wouldn't refer to them as "help".

I'm not exactly sure, but I had a dealer tell me he dealt a guy a $110,000 jackpot and the guy tipped him $1,000. The dealer was pissed it was so low.
 

paddywhack

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#3
Dyepaintball12 said:
I'm not exactly sure, but I had a dealer tell me he dealt a guy a $110,000 jackpot and the guy tipped him $1,000. The dealer was pissed it was so low.
Why does that NOT surprise me. :grin:
 

21gunsalute

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#4
Dyepaintball12 said:
I wouldn't refer to them as "help".

I'm not exactly sure, but I had a dealer tell me he dealt a guy a $110,000 jackpot and the guy tipped him $1,000. The dealer was pissed it was so low.
Does the house tip us when they take large amounts of our money?
 

Eye of the Tiger

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#5
Dyepaintball12 said:
I wouldn't refer to them as "help".

I'm not exactly sure, but I had a dealer tell me he dealt a guy a $110,000 jackpot and the guy tipped him $1,000. The dealer was pissed it was so low.
He should of said you are right give it back to me and I will give you the correct amount and then flipped him the bird.
 
#7
WHy do dealers care so much in the first place, i thought all table games dealers share tips? Wouldnt that make any tip kinda meaningless in such broad pool of users. Like i understand if one dealer would get 1k but when that is shared with 25 others its only like 40 dollars. Not enough to get so riled up over.
 
#8
collegebj said:
WHy do dealers care so much in the first place, i thought all table games dealers share tips? Wouldnt that make any tip kinda meaningless in such broad pool of users. Like i understand if one dealer would get 1k but when that is shared with 25 others its only like 40 dollars. Not enough to get so riled up over.
They get paid horribly. Tips are how they make a living.
 
#10
Dyepaintball12 said:
A dealer the other day told me he makes $10/hr but around $11-12/hr in tips.
The dealer telling me what they made was minimum wage plus tips. I am sure this varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and store to store. He may have been fishing for sympathy tips and been feeding me misinformation. It was at Delaware Park. This is still a bad base wage at $10/hour.
 

Shoofly

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#11
tthree said:
The dealer telling me what they made was minimum wage plus tips. I am sure this varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and store to store. He may have been fishing for sympathy tips and been feeding me misinformation. It was at Delaware Park. This is still a bad base wage at $10/hour.
A dealer told me that at her casino tips were calculated and distributed every two weeks. This kind of dilution makes the individual tip insignificant, and simply means that the players are taking it on themselves to assume the casino's obligation to pay its employees.
 
#12
Also i see mostly younger dealers around here, that or older retired people doing it as a hobby or little extra income. Ten dollars an hour is not a bad wage for no college or any other training, specially when you factor in the ability for tips. Waitresses make something terrible like 4.25 an hour.
 

blackchipjim

Well-Known Member
#13
Tip amounts

I have seen alot of people make a lot of money and not tip dime. You don't really want to stiff your regular joint's people because they recognize you as a regular and there are pleasant to have dealing to you. I just thought 1% was a fair amount on a large payout but have heard that 2% or more is in line. I have never asked a dealer to br my play but to think you got stiffed because you think the tip wasn't big enough is a bit on the classless side. I use to bartend and the side and never hustled for tips they came naturally by good service. I don't want to think of myself as a tip whore and if I don't like the wage I would deal somewhere else.
 

aslan

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#15
Dyepaintball12 said:
I wouldn't refer to them as "help".

I'm not exactly sure, but I had a dealer tell me he dealt a guy a $110,000 jackpot and the guy tipped him $1,000. The dealer was pissed it was so low.
If that happened to me, I'd take it back if I could. The dealer has absolutely NOTHING to do with the hands you receive. He DESERVES nothing by virtue of the fact that he dealt the hand. I tip when I win because dealers rely on tips for their living and because it is good cover. I generally tip modestly.
 

aslan

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#16
Gamblor said:
I've know plenty places where dealers get payed much less $10/hr by the casino.
In Vegas at the Venetian, they receive minimum wage, which I think is between 5 and 7 dollars. This is probably pretty representative of all of Vegas. But, hey, no one makes them take the job. It's not like they are performing a service. Only ploppies think they have something to do with the hands they get. If no one tipped, casinos might be forced to raise their wages. That being said, I tip modestly.
 

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
#17
Nearly every dealer (at least in the USA) gets minimum wage.

I remember several years ago when MGM stores decided to pay their dealers $7.50 per hour — well above minimum wage. There was a lot of grumbling reverberating throughout the gaming industry that MGM was setting a precedent, but alas and alack, no other casino followed suit.

With their tokes, dealers can make as little as $10 per hr. or as much as $30 an hour; but most typical is about $18 per hour. That is $36,000 yearly. A perfectly common level of earnings — but for a miserable job. You cannot actually raise a family on that kind of money, can you ?
 

Eye of the Tiger

Well-Known Member
#18
Sure you can if you live in a trailer in the hills of Kentucky and you feed your family Spam and Hot Dogs. Don't forget shopping at the day old store always is a saver.
 

aslan

Well-Known Member
#19
FLASH1296 said:
Nearly every dealer (at least in the USA) gets minimum wage.

I remember several years ago when MGM stores decided to pay their dealers $7.50 per hour — well above minimum wage. There was a lot of grumbling reverberating throughout the gaming industry that MGM was setting a precedent, but alas and alack, no other casino followed suit.

With their tokes, dealers can make as little as $10 per hr. or as much as $30 an hour; but most typical is about $18 per hour. That is $36,000 yearly. A perfectly common level of earnings — but for a miserable job. You cannot actually raise a family on that kind of money, can you ?
In a normal year, not these years of recession, a dealer at Caesar's makes $90,000 according to an acquaintance who works there.
 

aslan

Well-Known Member
#20
Eye of the Tiger said:
Sure you can if you live in a trailer in the hills of Kentucky and you feed your family Spam and Hot Dogs. Don't forget shopping at the day old store always is a saver.
You had spam!?
 
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