smoke free valley view

arrando

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#1
Anyone been to the smoke free section of valley view in sd county? What are the limits usually like and do they put any of the decent games in there?
 
#2
Valley View has a very nice smoke-free area, very large compared to most in the area. BJ area has usual 6D shoe and DD. Rules are good but no surrender in DD (Harrah's Rincon does offer surrender on DD). Shoe games are $10 ($15 later in day) and $25 for DD. New club members get a free buffet (get there early). One thing, smoke-free doesn't have its' own entrance so you have to walk through the main casino for one minute or less to get there. Go in the main entrance and look to your right for the smoke -free sign.

Just onemorehand Honey
 
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Yes, but with the rules out there today I take any edge I can get. Harrahs Rincon is only 4 miles from Valley View. The design of Harrah's Rincon (higher ceilings) helps cut down the smoke smell and most dealers use the fan on the table to blow smoke away from the table not just them.

The last hand is always a winner, right?
 

Thunder

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#6
FLASH1296 said:
footnote:

Late Surrender is the "positive" rule that is worth the
most with 8 decks and the least with one deck.
Flash, this does not inherently make sense since the effect of card distribution affects 8 decks more than a single deck. I'd be curious to hear your rationale as to why you believe this.
 

FLASH1296

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#7

No "rationale" required. You should know this.

This is a well-known fact that was, I think,

first revealed by the late Peter Griffin, Ph.D.

author of The Theory of Blackjack


From p. 184 of The Big Book of Blackjack by Arnold Snyder:

All forms of Late and Early Surrender are worth more as the number of decks increase e.g.

Late Surrender (H17) is worth +0.0.3% in a Single Deck and doubles to +0.0.6% in a Double Deck. In a shoe game it is inflated by 50% to +0.0.9%.

These figures are for Basic Strategy players. Surrender is worth far more to a Card Counter utilizing surrender indices.

Anyone can win or lose, but those whose play is efficacious, Merit credit for good news, and find the adverse less vexatious.
 
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Thunder

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#9
Yeah that was a given Blue as you're more likely to see a wider range in the TC. I'm still curious as to the rationale that Snyder or Thorp gives for it being worth more for the BS player in a shoe game. I guess I never bothered to check to see what LS was worth for DD or single deck games since I have never had the opportunity to play any of those games with it.
 
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