CSMz - One2Six

#1
Recently I went on a trip up to Thunder Valley and noticed that they had
changed their CSMs from the 5 decker CSM shuffler to the 6 decker
One2Six machine. Which is a good thing I believe! Because them and
everyone else is just setting themselves up for the next round of the
*Elite* group that is going to take them down.

The methods that we and they will incorporate will dumbfound the
logic of Basic Strategy and the use of that *OLD* Strategy that
was designed back in old school on an old IBM 704 that only gave
results based on the 'mindset' of the programmer.


I would really like to train a group on beating the CSMs. But my
drawback is that everyone elses 'belief' is that these machines
can not be beaten. With my methods they can. My second
drawback is on teaching a group, is trust. That's the major factor
in my theology of keeping this method a big secret. This can
not be abused, or the game will be lost forever.


Give me suggestions on how we can get together and use my tools
and knowledge of this game, so we can beat this. It's man against
machine all over again.


Once again, if I feel I am not comfortable with the situation of training
a group, or if it's a set up from the Casino Executives, I will not go
forward! You have to make me feel comfortable in that you are a
true and honest person wanting to learn as a team to do this and
work with me.

Best Regards,


C-Smith


C*SM (International Team of Hackers)
 

RJT

Well-Known Member
#2
If you honestly had a method of beating CSM's, firstly posting on a message board rather than contacting a few select individuals would be foolish and more importantly it's likely you would have a host of contacts that you'd made during the development of such a technique. How much are you expecting these trusted team members to invest?
Colour me uninspired.

RJT.
 

Pro21

Well-Known Member
#3
I think the best course would be to first play them yourself and take off a few million dollars. You should get no heat playing these CSMs, and if you take off less than 100,000 per casino and move on then you should be fine.

After you make a few million there will be many people knocking down your door trying to learn your secret, and then of course you can put them to work. Maybe you can even charge them $199 or so to teach them your secret.
 
#4
C-SMith said:
Recently I went on a trip up to Thunder Valley and noticed that they had
changed their CSMs from the 5 decker CSM shuffler to the 6 decker
One2Six machine. Which is a good thing I believe! Because them and
everyone else is just setting themselves up for the next round of the
*Elite* group that is going to take them down.

The methods that we and they will incorporate will dumbfound the
logic of Basic Strategy and the use of that *OLD* Strategy that
was designed back in old school on an old IBM 704 that only gave
results based on the 'mindset' of the programmer.


I would really like to train a group on beating the CSMs. But my
drawback is that everyone elses 'belief' is that these machines
can not be beaten. With my methods they can. My second
drawback is on teaching a group, is trust. That's the major factor
in my theology of keeping this method a big secret. This can
not be abused, or the game will be lost forever.


Give me suggestions on how we can get together and use my tools
and knowledge of this game, so we can beat this. It's man against
machine all over again.


Once again, if I feel I am not comfortable with the situation of training
a group, or if it's a set up from the Casino Executives, I will not go
forward! You have to make me feel comfortable in that you are a
true and honest person wanting to learn as a team to do this and
work with me.

Best Regards,


C-Smith


C*SM (International Team of Hackers)

Sign me up. PM me. I like to think outside the box and have plenty of cash.
 

UK-21

Well-Known Member
#7
C-SMith said:
. . . Give me suggestions on how we can get together and use my tools
and knowledge of this game, so we can beat this. It's man against
machine all over again.
A bit difficult without knowing what they are and what you know. Do you work for Shufflemaster Inc by any chance? Now that would be useful, knowing the degree and method by which the ferris wheel turns to accept cards from the insert hopper, and how each tray is distributed back into the ramp that queues the cards to be dealt. If you don't know these, and therefore have no way of predicting with any certainty when clumps are likely to come out, I think you'll be pi$$ing in the wind.
 
#9
C-SMith said:
Recently I went on a trip up to Thunder Valley and noticed that they had
changed their CSMs from the 5 decker CSM shuffler to the 6 decker
One2Six machine. Which is a good thing I believe! Because them and
everyone else is just setting themselves up for the next round of the
*Elite* group that is going to take them down.

The methods that we and they will incorporate will dumbfound the
logic of Basic Strategy and the use of that *OLD* Strategy that
was designed back in old school on an old IBM 704 that only gave
results based on the 'mindset' of the programmer.


I would really like to train a group on beating the CSMs. But my
drawback is that everyone elses 'belief' is that these machines
can not be beaten. With my methods they can. My second
drawback is on teaching a group, is trust. That's the major factor
in my theology of keeping this method a big secret. This can
not be abused, or the game will be lost forever.


Give me suggestions on how we can get together and use my tools
and knowledge of this game, so we can beat this. It's man against
machine all over again.


Once again, if I feel I am not comfortable with the situation of training
a group, or if it's a set up from the Casino Executives, I will not go
forward! You have to make me feel comfortable in that you are a
true and honest person wanting to learn as a team to do this and
work with me.

Best Regards,


C-Smith


C*SM (International Team of Hackers)
Hi all I'm completely new to all of this, I have read a few posts from c-smith and I like what they have to say. I have emailed the email that is mentioned in their posts but haven't had a reply. I was hoping if someone could let me know if they have made contact and could perhaps guide me in the right direction to connect with C-smith.


I really hope to be able to pursue bj professionally, but with the introduction of CSMs to the Adelaide casino, I can't find a single shoe game and therefore can not use any advantage methods. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
#11
WABJ11 said:
Just voodoo. A guy with no knowledge of the machine but he has a winning system that beats it. And, as usual, he has all the pseudo-math and inspirational "The old ways don't work anymore. This is the NEW way!" pitch to back it up.

-Sonny-
 

21gunsalute

Well-Known Member
#12
The OP's MO looks suspiciously like that of someone else who wanted to fly someone out to Arizona to see his "system" even though he claimed to not know how to play very well.
 

johnnyb

Well-Known Member
#14
This guy claims to have a system to beat CSM's but he knowingly takes the time to post his thread in the "Voodoo Section" :laugh:

If he remotely thought any of his system was accurate this thread would be somewhere else. Such a sap!
 
#16
why card counters here saw there is a guy said can beat csm and think must be a scam?Can these way is a cheat?HC?spooking?or insider dealer?
Or maybe this guy own a csm and really find a weak point?Like dislocate by
a machine?Beating a game doesn't mean you must do it by count(or do legally)
I though advantage players judge after they heard what it is,and prove with maths.Were those hall of fame think like this?
I don't know what is simth's way,I can't prove but I don't judge!
 

AussiePlayer

Well-Known Member
#17
cents_20 said:
Or maybe this guy own a csm and really find a weak point?
Nobody owns a CSM, they are all owned by Shufflemaster and leased to casinos.

cents_20 said:
I though advantage players judge after they heard what it is,and prove with maths.
Correct, however, there was no maths.

cents_20 said:
why card counters here saw there is a guy said can beat csm and think must be a scam?Can these way is a cheat?HC?spooking?or insider dealer?
As for this sentence/paragraph, your grammar is so bad I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to illustrate.
 
#18
AussiePlayer said:
Nobody owns a CSM, they are all owned by Shufflemaster and leased to casinos.



Correct, however, there was no maths.



As for this sentence/paragraph, your grammar is so bad I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to illustrate.
Sorry for my bad English
What I am trying to say is,before we knew what is his method,we cant conclude it must be a scam.Maybe he is trying to beat the game by some cheats or he got connections with some workers in casino.
There are people attacking roulette by high-tech computers,so AP in roulette
is not a scam now,but in the past it was(Throp tried too!),and why we should always reject the mind of beating csm??

There is no math,we cant prove,so we cant say smith is a voodoo.He even not telling us what is he trying to do!Maybe he is a cheater,I don't know!
I am really looking forward someone can beat that shitty machine,legally, I hope!
 

Elhombre

Well-Known Member
#19
cents_20 said:
Sorry for my bad English
What I am trying to say is,before we knew what is his method,we cant conclude it must be a scam.Maybe he is trying to beat the game by some cheats or he got connections with some workers in casino.
There are people attacking roulette by high-tech computers,so AP in roulette
is not a scam now : go to rouletteplace.com, that's what I am doing
now, but not with a Computer.


but in the past it was(Throp tried too!),and why we should always reject the mind of beating csm??

There is no math,we cant prove,so we cant say smith is a voodoo.He even not telling us what is he trying to do!Maybe he is a cheater,I don't know!
I am really looking forward someone can beat that shitty machine,legally, I hope!
It's possible but the gain is about 2-3%, for me not worth the efford.
Not better than counting.
With a very,very big bankroll and much free time I would do that.

Find it out yourself, with imagination.How could it go ? not counting.

EH.
 
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