The peril of partnerships, or how I gave away $725

shadroch

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#1
I have a friend that owns a few trotters. They are nothing great, but he's been able to pull a small profit out of his stable. So tonite, he has a horse running at Yonkers and a bunch of us head up to the racino to watch him run. The horse comes in 5th out of 8, and we hit the downstairs lounge for some drinks and to listen to the house band- a kickass Motown revue.
I go to play some slots and a friend of a friend comes along. I find a promising machine and put in $100 bill. He asks if he can go partners and hands me $50. Says he knows nothing and can I explain winning combos and the like.
Its a game I've never seen before- Mayan Princes, although most of the characters are females, so maybe somebody stole the last S.
Its a nickle machine and its $2.70 a spin.
After about 15 minutes, I hit the bonus round. Having never played this machine, its all new to me. first screen pops up with eight eggs and it says pick one- I do and it says 3 times pay. Next screen is the same and I choose one- 50 free spins. So far so good. The bonus spins start and we quickly realize every spin is a winner- if you hit nothing, you still get $7.20 a spin.
times 50 spins and we are getting excited. After about ten spins, we are awarded another 50 spins, I don't know why. We are about halfway thru- 45 spins done and nothing too big, but we have banked over $400, when another screen pops up and asks us if we want to trade in our winnings for another 100 spins. It's a no brainer so we reset the bank to zero but now have 155 spins.
After what seemed like an hour, we finish and have almost $1400 in total winnings, and $1450 in credits in the machine. I'm expecting the machine to lock up, but we hit the cash out button, get a slip and cash it in one of the machines. No 1099, no nothing. Of course, I have to split it with my "partner"
 

Sharky

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#5
shadroch said:
...we finish and have almost $1400 in total winnings, and $1450 in credits in the machine. ...

so you had taken $1400 out and still had $1450 in credits?

if all you did was win $1450 and split it w/ someone you had a 50:50 agreement with before you started playing, what gives? do you feel you deserved more?

was this m/c broke? why quit playing it?
 

ChefJJ

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#6
The punchline is: Shad put $100 in and cashed out $1450. If the other guy wasn't around to go in on it, Shad would have had both $725 "halves" to himself. Therefore, he "gave away" $725.

BTW - Sharky, did you ever find the source for that Hilton sportsbook closure you posted about recently?
 

MangoJ

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#7
ChefJJ said:
The punchline is: Shad put $100 in and cashed out $1450. If the other guy wasn't around to go in on it, Shad would have had both $725 "halves" to himself. Therefore, he "gave away" $725.
This is nonsense.

Without the agreement, Shad had pushed the buttons a few seconds earlier, the RNG had produced different numbers, and the chance of hitting something would have been ... the same.
 

ChefJJ

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#8
MangoJ said:
This is nonsense.

Without the agreement, Shad had pushed the buttons a few seconds earlier, the RNG had produced different numbers, and the chance of hitting something would have been ... the same.
Oh, good grief. The guy's just telling a story...you're thinking waaaaay to hard about this.
 

shadroch

Well-Known Member
#12
21forme said:
If you've never seen it before, what made it a promising machine?
It was in a slightly elevated no smoking section that allowed me to view both the band and the dance floor,there were no elderly people playing the machines on either side, and the 'vibe" felt right.
 
#13
shadroch said:
It was in a slightly elevated no smoking section that allowed me to view both the band and the dance floor,there were no elderly people playing the machines on either side, and the 'vibe" felt right.
Voodoo. You had no idea what the odds were or if the machine required a strategy to maximize your return. It was either a good machine or a rip off machine. Either way you got lucky. To have the events transpire as they did the exact timing of hitting buttons was required. If your friend hadn't interacted with you your timing would have been different and you would have had a different outcome. Given the outcome you enjoyed I think it is safe to assume your friend helped you win more money but that is something you will never know.
 
#15
Sharky said:
so you had taken $1400 out and still had $1450 in credits?

if all you did was win $1450 and split it w/ someone you had a 50:50 agreement with before you started playing, what gives? do you feel you deserved more?
He did deserve more - he selected the machine - put up half - and did ALL the playing. partner deserved 25%. zg
 
#20
shadroch said:
Empire City
I thought so. Just wondering...you know the slots there are all Class II machines right? As in they are nothing more than lottery tickets...just that the results are resented in slot/vp/video craps/video roulette form. In fact put a couple bucks into a vp machine and try this: Play till you get something that pays out on your first draw, purposely discard all cards, and you will magically get back something that pays out at the level of what you had before or higher. Even if you were to throw away a royal flush, you would get it back again!

So slots are usually ripoffs, but the ones in New York are even bigger ripoffs if that is even possible. :eek:
 
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