(winning streak) Ride on players luck to win

#1
I think most players here believe in luck no matter what games you play when they are in a casino. If they lost 6 or 8 times in a row they will quit for the day and come back tomorrow. Here i have another way or strategy to play. I hope that expert in this room will give me some feedback on this
strategy. i have not seen any forum discuss on this subject before so here i am posting something diffrent apart from card counting.

Players does sometimes feel that they are having bad luck. When playing BJ some other guys sitting next to him may show no skill or talent in playing BJ but end up on a winning streak. This is what i observe when not playing but watching players the way they play.And at the sametime trying to figure out what card may be coming out next using the card counting system.

Here i have an way which i had tested a few times on the card table. started out with $50 and i play $10 a game 1 stay through the game for 6 hours. I won $600 dollars minus my $50 so total winning is $550 dollars. Second test i did $200 and $10 a bet for 4 hours won $300 total earning apart from my $200 i won $100. And the last tryon this way of playing was 2 weeks 1 week ago. $300 start out$10 a bet 3 hours i lost $200 soi left with $100. I does not encourage anyone to try this, i am just asking if anyone play this game in the same way as i do.

I do not play at table i just wait for the right time when a winning streak comes along for any player at the table and i place my bet on them. and most of the time i find that i can count card more easily when not playing minus out the pressure when i am playing on the table i do not have to bet each round. just wait for the right time to bet. and i observe alot of people does this too. had anyone discuss on this before.
 
#3
gerald

some people have 8 or more winning streak in a row, i am just wondering if it works. maybe there is some guys who is a gambling pro if thats the case i bet on him rather playing the game myself lol
 

Senacchrib

Well-Known Member
#5
Hmmm...

Is it just bad luck that every other word typed by you is grammaticaly incorrect?

:laugh: Just playing with you. Although I do not believe that this will work, I am curious as to your funds balance over a longer period of time, say 2-3 months. I would be interested to see how your idea holds up.

Please post your standings.
 

aussiecounter

Well-Known Member
#7
gerald said:
Players does sometimes feel that they are having bad luck. When playing BJ some other guys sitting next to him may show no skill or talent in playing BJ but end up on a winning streak. This is what i observe when not playing but watching players the way they play.And at the sametime trying to figure out what card may be coming out next using the card counting system.
What counting system do you use? It must be pretty advanced if you can figure out what card is coming out next.
 
#8
(Gerald) I was just looking for an answer guys

Sorry for all the grammer mistake, i will try and brush up on it. It is not a system on card counting this ideal came up to me after i lost too many hands. So i leave the table and observe other players on how they are able to win. Luck may play a small part in this games. How many of you have friends or you yourself experance winnings streak on any other games in casino you play, not using any counting system or strategies. But keep winning like mad game after game and when you left that place you ask yourself this question. How did i pull off something like that and offer no explaination for yourself. Maybe that is luck lol

I use hi low card counting system myself, but sometime when i feel i really need to stand away from that table coz i am having a losing streak i bet on other players. The main reason to me is i don't have to follow each game, i can take my time with hi low card count system and bet on that game when i feel confident.
 

Mikeaber

Well-Known Member
#9
gerald said:
Sorry for all the grammer mistake, i will try and brush up on it. It is not a system on card counting this ideal came up to me after i lost too many hands. So i leave the table and observe other players on how they are able to win. Luck may play a small part in this games. How many of you have friends or you yourself experance winnings streak on any other games in casino you play, not using any counting system or strategies. But keep winning like mad game after game and when you left that place you ask yourself this question. How did i pull off something like that and offer no explaination for yourself. Maybe that is luck lol

I use hi low card counting system myself, but sometime when i feel i really need to stand away from that table coz i am having a losing streak i bet on other players. The main reason to me is i don't have to follow each game, i can take my time with hi low card count system and bet on that game when i feel confident.
Gerald,

"Luck" happens for sure. It's called "variance". Variance manifests as results that deviate from the computed probabilities. We all experience it but, you must understand that it is not predictable. If it were, then virtually all of the betting progressions truely could be valid. The problem is that you do not know you are on a 32 hand winning streak until it's over. As far as you know as you are playing, it could end after 2 hands.

With that in mind, watching a friend or anyone who is on a "winning streak" and trying to ride their shirttails would be no reasurrance that you would capitalize on their streak because as soon as you jump in, it could end...or it could continue. No way to predict it.
 

tribute

Well-Known Member
#10
Gerald,
I probably play similarly to you as far as betting amounts since my bankroll is small. But the "tests" you describe are not reliable to measure anything. I also have had unbelievable streaks, good and bad, but luck had nothing to do with it. I just play with reasonable expectations and I try not to let emotions influence my playing decisions. Have you read Blackjack Blue Book II? It sure helped me understand the realities of the game.
 
#11
gerald

Sorry for all the grammer mistake, i will try and brush up on it. It is not a system on card counting but this ideal came up to me after i lost too many hands at the table. So i leave the table and observe other players on how they play and are able to win. I use oscar card counting system for myself.

How many of you have friends or you yourself experiance winnings streak on any other games in the casino , not using any counting system or strategies. But keep cashing in on a wiining streak game after game. And when you left that place you ask yourself this question. How did i pull off something like that and offer no explaination for yourself. Maybe that is luck lol

All player knows when to stay away from the table if constance losing of hands after hands if seen, i pratice blackjack each day after work when i have time. But when i really felt lost at the card table i need to turn to other option other than oscar card count system or basic card strategies.

Standing away from the tables give me time to relax and cool myself, the main advantage is i don't have to follow each game, i can take my time with hi low card count system and bet on that game when i feel confident enough i bet. And i have all the time i need to really pull off card counting system. And of course at the same time chose the winning horse for you to win lol.

I am not trying to promote other card system here, just trying to open up some option for us. The main focus in this forum is to find means to win not losing. I may not speak the same language as you do but we have the same reason why we are here discussing strategie on how to beat the card dealer or this blackjack card system.

thanks for speaking up for me canceler, your a nice chap lol
 

Senacchrib

Well-Known Member
#12
Sorry for all the grammer mistake, i will try and brush up on it.
Do not worry about it, I understand some people's first language is not english. Notice I did put a smiley face on my post where I commented on it :D . It was a minor pun about your "luck" idea.
 

nc-tom

Well-Known Member
#15
gerald said:
some people have 8 or more winning streak in a row, i am just wondering if it works. maybe there is some guys who is a gambling pro if thats the case i bet on him rather playing the game myself lol
gerald if you are backcounting using the hi-lo system and then wonging in on positive counts then there might be something to what you are saying. Otherwise if you are just watching and going by luck or the dreaded "feeling" then forget about it. Also where do you play where it is so easy to bet on other players hands. Most of the places i have played the players tend to not like this type of action?
 

anglinw

Well-Known Member
#16
Luck Verses Variance

I have found through hour upon hour of playing Blackjack that just about anything can happen, short term. I cannot count the times that I have sat down at a table with others winning 4 out of 5 hands, always winning their higher bets, while I loose consistantly.

Last weekend, I sat at a table with one other guy who turned 1K into 30K ($30,000) in chips, only to give it all back. I bought in, bought in, and bought in again to finally find that "streak" (which I had identified as a very consistantly high count) and left up for the table by almost double total buy-ins. Now, I did not start winning until the other guy tapped out and left. Was he "bad luck" for me? NO!!!!! (For anyone who has not seen something similar happen, invest a couple hours watching higher limit games.)

The cards don't care who is playing, or what incredibly stupid/brilliant plays they make. The only thing that counts, . . . is the count, identifing predictave history of the cards still to come, then playing and betting appropriately. Playing perfect basic strategy will greatly reduce the amounts you will lose, but you will still lose long term, using no other advantage.

Playing Blackjack with basic strategy for entertainment is great. Fun times and wild swings up and down will surely occur, but after hours of play, mathmatics will catch up with luck.

Playing Blackjack for profit requires strick counting methods, standard play deviations and betting spreads base on the count, and, hour after hour of play to overcome the varience of bankroll swings. Heat deflection is also helpful for those heavy winning sessions.

As alway, just my thoughts.
 
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