Found a +EV blackjack game

Thunder

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It has a .07% player advantage right off the top. Can't count the game as it's online and they shuffle every hand. Max bet is $25 and you can only play it Fri afternoons EST for a period of 6 hours. I don't know how long this promotion will last but I doubt it will be long. Since it's online you should be able to play a ton of hands/hr. Make me a good offer and I'll give you the website and proof.

I would have posted this in the online casino promotions forum but it doesn't let me post there for some reason
 
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Thunder said:
It has a .07% player advantage right off the top. Can't count the game as it's online and they shuffle every hand. Max bet is $25 and you can only play it Fri afternoons EST for a period of 6 hours. I don't know how long this promotion will last but I doubt it will be long. Since it's online you should be able to play a ton of hands/hr. Make me a good offer and I'll give you the website and proof.
Will you please just share it to anyone who requests via PM?
Or are you insisting on some sort of value exchange? zg
 

mjbballar23

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#3
Thunder said:
It has a .07% player advantage right off the top. Can't count the game as it's online and they shuffle every hand. Max bet is $25 and you can only play it Fri afternoons EST for a period of 6 hours. I don't know how long this promotion will last but I doubt it will be long. Since it's online you should be able to play a ton of hands/hr. Make me a good offer and I'll give you the website and proof.

I would have posted this in the online casino promotions forum but it doesn't let me post there for some reason
How many hands per hour can you reasonably get playing online BJ? Even at 1000 hands per hour, this is only worth $17.50 an hour...

I guess if you had a program to play for you and could have multiple accounts playing at the same time we might have something here...
 
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zengrifter said:
Will you please just share it to anyone who requests via PM?
Or are you insisting on some sort of value exchange? zg
Thats what makes it +EV. He can make a profit without even playing. Now fork it over ZG.
 

NightStalker

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#5
my offer 25c for the information

Thunder said:
It has a .07% player advantage right off the top. Can't count the game as it's online and they shuffle every hand. Max bet is $25 and you can only play it Fri afternoons EST for a period of 6 hours. I don't know how long this promotion will last but I doubt it will be long. Since it's online you should be able to play a ton of hands/hr. Make me a good offer and I'll give you the website and proof.

I would have posted this in the online casino promotions forum but it doesn't let me post there for some reason
Ev= +0.0007 is a waste of time. There are many countable games available at every point of time which has better EV off the top.
 

Thunder

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#7
NightStalker, for a lot of people who are green chippers or make over $17.50/hr it probably is a waste of time but for everyone else, it's an easy way to make some extra dough from home if you're available those hours. I'm not aware of any games online or inr eal life that are countable with a +EV off the top.
 
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Thunder said:
NightStalker, for a lot of people who are green chippers or make over $17.50/hr it probably is a waste of time but for everyone else, it's an easy way to make some extra dough from home.
Doesn't look 'that' easy.
$25 x 500 hands per hr = $8.50 or a 1/3u

What does the ROR and NO look like? zg
 

London Colin

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Thunder said:
NightStalker, for a lot of people who are green chippers or make over $17.50/hr it probably is a waste of time but for everyone else, it's an easy way to make some extra dough from home if you're available those hours.
Suppose you have a $10,000 bankroll and are prepared to make Full Kelly bets. You won't be betting anywhere near $25 per hand; more like $5.50.

I don't think 0.07% can be considered enough of a return to make blackjack a worthwhile pursuit. If you have the bankroll to support big enough bets, then you can surely find a better way to put it to use. And if you don't then you must either accept a piddling $/hour rate of return for a lot of effort, or an excessive amount of risk.
 
#11
London Colin said:
I don't think 0.07% can be considered enough of a return to make blackjack a worthwhile pursuit. If you have the bankroll to support big enough bets, then you can surely find a better way to put it to use. And if you don't then you must either accept a piddling $/hour rate of return for a lot of effort, or an excessive amount of risk.
But he said its for the ordinary Joe to pick up some quick cash from home.
I started to call, credit card in hand! zg
 
#12
London Colin said:
Suppose you have a $10,000 bankroll and are prepared to make Full Kelly bets. You won't be betting anywhere near $25 per hand; more like $5.50
$10k isn't big enough to flat bet the $25??
I like the $17/hr better. How do I play 1000 hands/hr? zg
 

Thunder

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#13
zengrifter said:
$10k isn't big enough to flat bet the $25??
I like the $17/hr better. How do I play 1000 hands/hr? zg
1000 hands was just an estimate of the max hands you might be able to play in an hour. That of course will vary. I will say this much. The standard deviation/per hand will be lower than what usually could be expected.
 
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Thunder

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#14
Forgot to mention that it is probably worth a little more when you take into account the signup bonus... I can't reveal what that is for obvious reasons but it is worth between $50-$100 with a standard 10x rollover requirement.
 

bj21abc

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#15
If you found a site that lets you rollover 10x on blackjack I'd be very suspicious indeed...

Thunder said:
Forgot to mention that it is probably worth a little more when you take into account the signup bonus... I can't reveal what that is for obvious reasons but it is worth between $50-$100 with a standard 10x rollover requirement.
 

RJT

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#17
Almost all of the US facing online shops are dodgy as they come. I reckon that the one you're discussing is probably - without having checked - 5 D1me5 (the first 5 is a number the 1 and the 5 are an i and an s - this is done to discourage random internet searches turning up here is the same way you disguise casino names offline) who offer +EV games regularly, then refuse to payout when players win. And as you're not going to win big (as with the +EV VP games they offer) instead they'll just bar you very quickly when they see you only play on this game during the hours that it's +EV.

1k hands an hour is also very opptomistic. You can manage it on some softwares, but only a select few, and the idea of playing this without a bot is somewhat wishful, but to get a decent bot written would cost you lots of $$$ and to write one yourself is probably more of a time investment than it's worth due to the fact that the casino are going to bar you in short order.

One last note - with a advantage that small, variance is going to be very high. So you're going to need to play a LOT of hands to over come it. Even if you had all day every day to play, you could easily go many many months with large losses.

RJT.
 
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bj21abc

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#18
I have not done any BW for years - but even then rollover (at any place where you could be sure of getting paid) was at least x25, more so for BJ (if BJ was allowed for playthrough at all).

Sure, flybynight casino based in asmallsouthamericancountry would let you sign up and roll over 5 times, but good luck seeing the money. Check out casinomeister reports before you play.

Thunder said:
Why? 10x rollover requirements for getting a signup bonus is pretty much the norm.
 

Thunder

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#19
We have a winner. I knew I gave too many hints ;) Thanks RJT for spoiling it! It is a very reputable site though, at least its sportsbook is.
 

RJT

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Thunder said:
We have a winner. I knew I gave too many hints ;) Thanks RJT for spoiling it! It is a very reputable site though, at least its sportsbook is.
Very reputable?

http://www.beatingbonuses.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6233

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/1077979-5-dimes-takes-back-32k-casino-winnings.html

They've always been renouned for barring very quickly if you play the lure games they offer and now they don't pay big wins! I was trying to point out that there is no +EV in this and steer people away from a dodgy joint. It's the same people that run both the casino and sportsbook, so if one's dodgy, they both are.

RJT.
 
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