Scam?

AussiePlayer

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#1
Does anyone know who's site this is?

He dispells progressions, says that counting is the only way to beat the casinos (correct so far) then guarantees winning $1000 a day minimum! (not exactly painting an accurate picture of variance)

jblackjacksecrets.com/book/index.php?hop=jamesmcd87

It is also linked to an 'Australian Blackjack' site, giving all the rules for each Australian casino, however they are nearly all wrong and there is no mention of CSMs even though nearly all Australian casinos use the (some have no shoe games anymore at all). There is also no mention of the fact that most low limit games at Crown are 6:5!

blackjack-australia.com.au/index.php
 

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Sonny

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#2
Yeah, total scam. The website is riddled with ridiculous claims, incorrect information and the sales pitch reeks of desperation. If they can't even get the website right, I'd hate to see what's inside the books. A few of my favorite lines:

"Amazing Secret...Gains An Advantage Of 1.97% Over The House, Eliminates Risks…" (their emphasis, not mine!)

"What if I could PROVE to you that BlackJack is the *only* casino game that can be played for a living" :laugh:

"On the other hand, Craps, Roulette, Slots, Baccarat, etc., are game of chance based on "Independent Trials"." (Baccarat? Independent Trials?)

Really funny stuff, but why not inquire yourself?

JBlackjackSecrets
Catalin Neculai ([email protected])
no 12, main street
Borcea, 12345
RO

-Sonny-
 
#5
AussiePlayer said:
Does anyone know who's site this is?

He dispells progressions, says that counting is the only way to beat the casinos (correct so far) then guarantees winning $1000 a day minimum! (not exactly painting an accurate picture of variance)



It is also linked to an 'Australian Blackjack' site, giving all the rules for each Australian casino, however they are nearly all wrong and there is no mention of CSMs even though nearly all Australian casinos use the (some have no shoe games anymore at all). There is also no mention of the fact that most low limit games at Crown are 6:5!

blackjack-australia.com.au/index.php
Yanks would never fall for something so brazen - clearly they are focused on easier marks, like Aussies. z:laugh:g
 

Gamblor

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#6
zengrifter said:
Yanks would never fall for something so brazen - clearly they are focused on easier marks, like Aussies. z:laugh:g
Knifey-Spoony

A game of Australian origin in which two or more players compare knives; the player with the largest knife is the winner. However, any player may choose to use a spoon instead of a knife. Any spoon beats any knife, but a player with a spoon is disqualified if another player recognizes and announces his or her use of a spoon.

A typical match would go something like this:


"That's not a knife. THIS is a knife!"
"That's not a knife, that's a spoon."
"All right you win, I see you've played Knifey-Spoony before!"


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Knifey-Spoony
 

AussiePlayer

Well-Known Member
#8
Gamblor said:
Knifey-Spoony

A game of Australian origin in which two or more players compare knives; the player with the largest knife is the winner. However, any player may choose to use a spoon instead of a knife. Any spoon beats any knife, but a player with a spoon is disqualified if another player recognizes and announces his or her use of a spoon.

A typical match would go something like this:


"That's not a knife. THIS is a knife!"
"That's not a knife, that's a spoon."
"All right you win, I see you've played Knifey-Spoony before!"


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Knifey-Spoony
Are you sure that's not just a Simpsons episode?

Invented by yanks?

 
#9
Counting is NOT the only way to beat the casinos

AussiePlayer said:
"counting is the only way to beat the casinos (correct so far)
Begin your education with "Winning Without Counting" by Stanford Wong.
Follow that up with "Million Dollar Blackjack" by Ken Uston.

If you like what you've read so far, spring for a copy of both of Grosjean's books.

That should keep you busy for the rest of your life.

Cobbson
 
#11
blackriver said:
wow, never heard of winning without counting by wong. is this baout blackjack? if so what does it cover? ima probably buy this
Its from a previous era when dealer's checked holecards without readers.
This would create a consistent readable warp in the 10s and Aces.
 

QFIT

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#12
DDutton said:
Its from a previous era when dealer's checked holecards without readers.
This would create a consistent readable warp in the 10s and Aces.
Yes, and I dropped that feature in the last release of my software as it is basically useless these days.
 
#13
DDutton said:
Its from a previous era when dealer's checked holecards without readers.
This would create a consistent readable warp in the 10s and Aces.
While reading warps is a thing of the past due to peeks, both Stanford and Uston's books include detailed chapters on hole carding and other methods (marginally legal/illegal and marginally ethical/unethical) along with strategies for play when the hole card is known. Hole carding is still a viable play.

Grosjean's books deal with many forms of advantage play and are quite costly if you can get hold of copies.

Cobbson
 
#15
I can help with Grosjean...

AussiePlayer said:
If only it was that easy!
Beyond Counting (The older book)...Next time you are in Las Vegas, stop into the UNLV Library on Maryland Parkway near Tropicana. They have a copy in their "Special Collection" which you can read, but not borrow. Just bring your drivers license. Only read the chapters that are of interest to you.

Here is the catalog listing. You may have to cut and paste:

http://webpac.library.unlv.edu/sear...ean/1,9,15,B/frameset&FF=agrosjean+james&1,1,

As far as Exhibit CAA, the most recent book, that's a tougher nut to crack. I'm sure if you put your mind to it and are persistant, you can come up with a copy.

Cobbson

Cobbson
 

QFIT

Well-Known Member
#16
It is important to understand that BC does not tell you how to do these things. That's OK. But, people should know this. Tables are available elsewhere for BJ situations.
 

AussiePlayer

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#17
QFIT said:
It is important to understand that BC does not tell you how to do these things. That's OK. But, people should know this. Tables are available elsewhere for BJ situations.
More interested in the other games mentioned as all BJ in Aus is ENHC
 
#18
Question regard ENHC down under

AussiePlayer said:
More interested in the other games mentioned as all BJ in Aus is ENHC
In ENHC in Aus does the house win both bets on a dd or split if the dealer draws a to a BJ or do they return one bet to the player?

I've only played in one game of this type in the U.S. where the house returned the second bet in the above situation. While eliminating the threat to the house of HC, that advantatage was more than wiped out by the extra time spent dealing cards for what would eventually become a dealer's blackjack. The house finally killed that game.

G'day,
Cobbson
 

AussiePlayer

Well-Known Member
#19
b jay cobbson said:
In ENHC in Aus does the house win both bets on a dd or split if the dealer draws a to a BJ or do they return one bet to the player?

I've only played in one game of this type in the U.S. where the house returned the second bet in the above situation. While eliminating the threat to the house of HC, that advantatage was more than wiped out by the extra time spent dealing cards for what would eventually become a dealer's blackjack. The house finally killed that game.

G'day,
Cobbson
Different casinos run different rules in Aus, my local (one of the only ones left without CSM's) uses ENHC-OBBO (Original Bets & Busts Only). They only collect your original bet on a double or split, but if you split and bust, you lose all busted hands.
 
#20
QFIT said:
It is important to understand that BC does not tell you how to do these things.
That was ExCAA's criticism of John May's Get The Edge at BJ??
And also that May dared to describe GTEABJ as a "veritable companion book to BC." :laugh:

Oh - I am suddenly reminded of Stalker's (you know that guy with the dead ghost-town forum) proclamation to QFIT that:
"... real APs do not use sims..." - yet ExCAA is constantly simming sh*t.
 
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