Doesn't this already exist?

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(Dead link: http://www.betastic.co.uk/gambling_news-blackjack-card-counting-under-threat-from-new-detection-software.htm)

Doesn't this already exist and is widely open for casino's already?
 
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FLASH1296

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Software to detect Card Counters exists - but not in as useful a form as what is presented in this article.

Current software requires a casino surveillance person to input data by voice or by hand on a case-by-case basis.
 

johndoe

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FLASH1296 said:
Software to detect Card Counters exists - but not in as useful a form as what is presented in this article.

Current software requires a casino surveillance person to input data by voice or by hand on a case-by-case basis.
TableID does all of this automatically, just like the one described in the article, and is already in use by some casinos. It's not very widely used, though. It's probably too expensive for most casinos to justify, among other reasons.

The only difference I see is that overhead cameras are used to read the cards, and not the reader built into the shoe. The tracking of bets is not mentioned, and I doubt they can do this optically in any practical sense. TableID uses RFID.

But remember, this is just some college kid's project that got a mention in the news. These articles are hardly indicators that it works all that well (if at all). There a huge difference between a cute college demo and something that a casino might actually use.
 
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johndoe said:
TableID does all of this automatically, just like the one described in the article, and is already in use by some casinos. It's not very widely used, though. It's probably too expensive for most casinos to justify, among other reasons.

The only difference I see is that overhead cameras are used to read the cards, and not the reader built into the shoe. The tracking of bets is not mentioned, and I doubt they can do this optically in any practical sense. TableID uses RFID.

But remember, this is just some college kid's project that got a mention in the news. These articles are hardly indicators that it works all that well (if at all). There a huge difference between a cute college demo and something that a casino might actually use.
That actually makes a lot of sense, we don't know the parametres and variations of his demo. We don't know how much he knows about card counting, or to be more precise, how much he doesn't know.

It says tested in the UK, I'm not sure we have RFID anywhere over here, certainly not in chain casino's which most are so that puts out that idea.

There was another article about the same person/software which implicated that it required some amount of interaction but I can't seem to find it.

Thanks for the replies, seems we are fairly conclusive this is not a threat.
 

johndoe

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Yup.

Also remember that "tested" could mean anything, even something as irrelevant as him showing it watching a few hands in his dorm room while some curious representative of a casino (or 'consultant') was watching. It's meaningless.

Unfortunately, this is pretty typical for technology press. You really can't give any of it credence these days.
 
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