Worst play I've seen so far

#61
If I were going to tip the dealer that night , I would pull out of my chips the total I was going to tip for the night. I would wave it in her face and tell her, "Since you are obviously not on the player's side this would be your tip for my play tonight but I am going to pay the poor girl the money you stole from her. I think everyone here should do the same. Tell the casino what you are doing and collect your tip from them. That is who you are serving anyway". People like that just piss me off!!!!
 

aslan

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#62
Sucker said:
Probably the worst play I've ever seen was one in which the dealer INTENTIONALLY tricked the beginner into making (which is WHY I consider it the worst play I've ever seen).

This was at the Silver Legacy about a year ago. It was obviously the first time this young girl had ever played BJ. She had 8-2 ($5 bet); took a hit & got an ace. Confused, she turned over her cards & asked the dealer what she had. The dealer; who was making no effort to conceal her lack of patience, replied: "You have eleven or twenty-one" (with great emphasis on the word eleven). Still confused, she started to scratch for a hit. Before I or anyone else could say anything, this piece of sh*t dealer, with a self-satisfied smirk on her face, flipped that hit card out so fast I thought her ARM was going to fall off!

I thought about reporting the b*tch to the PB, but then it WAS the Silver Legacy; probably would've just gotten MYSELF kicked out. :rolleyes:
... and she drew a ten, making 21, the dealer busted, paying the entire board, and you reported the dealer's misconduct, which resulted in her getting fired; the girl was extremely appreciative, bought you a drink, which led to a long period of dating culminating in marriage, and the two of you lived happily ever after. Gee! I sure do like a happy ending! :)
 

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
#63
moo321.

Interesting factoid:

(in terms of lost equity), failing to split 8's vs. a dealer's 7
is worse than failing to split 8's vs. a dealer stiff !

That is the worst play that you are ever likely to see.
 

aslan

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#65
The worst possible play imaginable to me would be hitting a hard 21, which could happen if one (1) were drunk or drug impaired, (2) miscounted his cards and believed he had a hittable hand, (3) did not understand the game, (4) were mentally incompetent, or (5) were a blooming idiot. What would you call a dealer who knowingly hit a customer's hard 21?
 

itrack

Well-Known Member
#66
Personal Worst Play

A few weeks ago I made (hopefully) my worst mistake that I can remember. Playing a hand dealt DD game, I realized that it was a double 10 and 11 only game, and I TUCKED a A3 vs dealer 5. :eek: The dealer made a hand with the 7 that should have made me a 21 :whip: I realized my mistake before the dealer even flipped my cards over. Oh ya...then was banned from the hotel/casino about an hour later, which just goes to show how effective cover plays are!!!
 

aslan

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#67
itrack said:
A few weeks ago I made (hopefully) my worst mistake that I can remember. Playing a hand dealt DD game, I realized that it was a double 10 and 11 only game, and I TUCKED a A3 vs dealer 5. :eek: The dealer made a hand with the 7 that should have made me a 21 :whip: I realized my mistake before the dealer even flipped my cards over. Oh ya...then was banned from the hotel/casino about an hour later, which just goes to show how effective cover plays are!!!
No, it just goes to show how obvious your counting behavior is.
 

Gamblor

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#70
aslan said:
You're right. It may have been ST behavior that got him banned.
Hmm, interesting, has anyone here gotten banned just from straight up ST? Would imagine someone experienced at it would be very hard to detect, unless your giving away completely bone-headed tells.
 

aslan

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#71
Gamblor said:
Hmm, interesting, has anyone here gotten banned just from straight up ST? Would imagine someone experienced at it would be very hard to detect, unless your giving away completely bone-headed tells.
I agree. It would most likely be counting behavior, or something interpreted as counting behavior. The only commonality between the two is the sudden raising of one's bet.
 

Gamblor

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#73
paddywhack said:
Ah, but lets assume that is not the case.....
Well there are times when the bet for the count and track is correlated, lets just say it happens more frequently depending on how deck is cut...

But happening enough and being so closely correlated where it seems like your counting and its easy to detect, probably not. If this is what your getting at.
 

itrack

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#74
aslan said:
You're right. It may have been ST behavior that got him banned.
0/2. It was most likely a previous barring which resulted in this place getting a flyer with my name/pic on it.

As for being backed off for ST, I think it is next to impossible. At an extremely sweaty joint that only looks at 1 or 2 rounds of play before a backoff, it could be possible if those 2 shoes just happened to resemble normal counting. Also, if you win too much too fast at any type of game, there is always the chance of being backed off, even if they have no idea what you are doing.
 

aslan

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#75
itrack said:
0/2. It was most likely a previous barring which resulted in this place getting a flyer with my name/pic on it.

As for being backed off for ST, I think it is next to impossible. At an extremely sweaty joint that only looks at 1 or 2 rounds of play before a backoff, it could be possible if those 2 shoes just happened to resemble normal counting. Also, if you win too much too fast at any type of game, there is always the chance of being backed off, even if they have no idea what you are doing.
Yes, a flyer seems likely.

To me, tracking slugs of cards is probably next to impossible to detect. Surveillance might be able to do so in hindsight after careful review of table tapes, but I doubt they have that much time on their hands. But tracking aces is a form of tracking that does leave an obvious tell-- sudden large bets just before aces are dealt.
 
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