game conditions, quebec, nova scotia

Meistro

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#1
There are two casinos in Nova Scotia. I cannot speak to Sydney, having never travelled there, but it is rumoured they have four tables, only two of which are ever opened. I believe they offer six deck games.

In Halifax they have four or so deeply dealt CSM games. Table limits are $5-$200 or so and they deal 1 - 1.5 decks out of 6 before putting the cards back in the CSM. Rules are H17, DAS, DA2, no surrender. This is obviously a very poor game, but it is possible to beat using strictly back counting.

In their high limit room they offer a 6 deck H17 with okayish pen - 2 or 1.5 decks cut off. It is fairly crowded. They also offer a mostly deserted H17, D1011, NDAS double deck game. This is one of 3 (three) double deck games in Canada that I am aware of. The other two are in Winnipeg. The limits are $50-$500 and there is no mid shoe entry. Mid shoe entry is available in their 6 deck game. Pen in this game ranges from 50-65%ish, dealer dependent. As this was my first time playing it was tough for me to say, but I was pleasantly surprised at how deep it got sometimes.



Casino Montreal :

The games here are bad, but there are a ton of them. H17 8 deckers as far as the eye can see. Back counting is a snap and there are lots of spots where you can back bet. Of course no one plays basic strategy so it is risky. I recommend back counting two tables at once to make up for that crappy pen - 2 to 3 decks cut off. The first high limit room is H17 6 deckers, just higher limits. Might still be 8 deck but I think it is 6 deck. $50-$2000 no mid shoe I think. By my third day they half shoed the entire casino to get rid of me. Really kind of amusing, and didnt even work because there were always a few dealers who didnt half shoe it and so many games to choose from.

Casino De Charlevoix

The games are a little better here. 8 deck H17, with decentish pen - 1.5 to 2 decks cut off. Good limits - max $500, min $10 or $15. Not tooo crowded. Not many tables - 3 or so. The high limit room is nice, $25-$1000, NMSE, S17. Normal good shoe rules. Pen is decent enough, 1.5 or 2 decks cut off. They also have $50-$1000 and $100-$2000. You can also get a private $100-$2000 game opened in the back room, but after I did this they used counter measures on me - half shoed. Beautiful area and lots of skiing nearby.
 
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Meistro said:
There are two casinos in Nova Scotia. I cannot speak to Sydney, having never travelled there, but it is rumoured they have four tables, only two of which are ever opened. I believe they offer six deck games.

In Halifax they have four or so deeply dealt CSM games. Table limits are $5-$200 or so and they deal 1 - 1.5 decks out of 6 before putting the cards back in the CSM. Rules are H17, DAS, DA2, no surrender. This is obviously a very poor game, but it is possible to beat using strictly back counting.

In their high limit room they offer a 6 deck H17 with okayish pen - 2 or 1.5 decks cut off. It is fairly crowded. They also offer a mostly deserted H17, D1011, NDAS double deck game. This is one of 3 (three) double deck games in Canada that I am aware of. The other two are in Winnipeg. The limits are $50-$500 and there is no mid shoe entry. Mid shoe entry is available in their 6 deck game. Pen in this game ranges from 50-65%ish, dealer dependent. As this was my first time playing it was tough for me to say, but I was pleasantly surprised at how deep it got sometimes.



Casino Montreal :

The games here are bad, but there are a ton of them. H17 8 deckers as far as the eye can see. Back counting is a snap and there are lots of spots where you can back bet. Of course no one plays basic strategy so it is risky. I recommend back counting two tables at once to make up for that crappy pen - 2 to 3 decks cut off. The first high limit room is H17 6 deckers, just higher limits. Might still be 8 deck but I think it is 6 deck. $50-$2000 no mid shoe I think. By my third day they half shoed the entire casino to get rid of me. Really kind of amusing, and didnt even work because there were always a few dealers who didnt half shoe it and so many games to choose from.

Casino De Charlevoix

The games are a little better here. 8 deck H17, with decentish pen - 1.5 to 2 decks cut off. Good limits - max $500, min $10 or $15. Not tooo crowded. Not many tables - 3 or so. The high limit room is nice, $25-$1000, NMSE, S17. Normal good shoe rules. Pen is decent enough, 1.5 or 2 decks cut off. They also have $50-$1000 and $100-$2000. You can also get a private $100-$2000 game opened in the back room, but after I did this they used counter measures on me - half shoed. Beautiful area and lots of skiing nearby.

In montreal, where did you find the 6 deckers?? there is no 6 decks anywhere, not even the high limit room on the RC it is true that there is only 8 deckers on floor 1 and even the high limit is 8 decks , no 6 deckers! ????


Charlevoix had 6 decks before, did they change them all to 8 decks ?? how long was your last trip to charlevoix

And how come did they halfshoed you? u must have been using a big spread and played non-stop.???
 

Meistro

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#3
Right you are, Montreal is all 8 deckers. They have 25 - 1000, 50 - 2000 and 5/10/15 - 500 all on the floor. Only the 50-2000 in the Haute Mises room have NMS. Charlevoix is 8 deck H17 in the main area and 6 deck S17 in the hi limit area.
 

Brock Windsor

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#4
I've never seen the Halifax double deck game in action but heard of it. Was there last spring and the game wasn't, when were you there? The Montreal game you can have someone play table minimum so you get all the defensive splits for for one unit when you back bet them. The strategy for this play is on the WOO site.
BW


Meistro said:
There are two casinos in Nova Scotia. I cannot speak to Sydney, having never travelled there, but it is rumoured they have four tables, only two of which are ever opened. I believe they offer six deck games.

In Halifax they have four or so deeply dealt CSM games. Table limits are $5-$200 or so and they deal 1 - 1.5 decks out of 6 before putting the cards back in the CSM. Rules are H17, DAS, DA2, no surrender. This is obviously a very poor game, but it is possible to beat using strictly back counting.

In their high limit room they offer a 6 deck H17 with okayish pen - 2 or 1.5 decks cut off. It is fairly crowded. They also offer a mostly deserted H17, D1011, NDAS double deck game. This is one of 3 (three) double deck games in Canada that I am aware of. The other two are in Winnipeg. The limits are $50-$500 and there is no mid shoe entry. Mid shoe entry is available in their 6 deck game. Pen in this game ranges from 50-65%ish, dealer dependent. As this was my first time playing it was tough for me to say, but I was pleasantly surprised at how deep it got sometimes.



Casino Montreal :

The games here are bad, but there are a ton of them. H17 8 deckers as far as the eye can see. Back counting is a snap and there are lots of spots where you can back bet. Of course no one plays basic strategy so it is risky. I recommend back counting two tables at once to make up for that crappy pen - 2 to 3 decks cut off. The first high limit room is H17 6 deckers, just higher limits. Might still be 8 deck but I think it is 6 deck. $50-$2000 no mid shoe I think. By my third day they half shoed the entire casino to get rid of me. Really kind of amusing, and didnt even work because there were always a few dealers who didnt half shoe it and so many games to choose from.

Casino De Charlevoix

The games are a little better here. 8 deck H17, with decentish pen - 1.5 to 2 decks cut off. Good limits - max $500, min $10 or $15. Not tooo crowded. Not many tables - 3 or so. The high limit room is nice, $25-$1000, NMSE, S17. Normal good shoe rules. Pen is decent enough, 1.5 or 2 decks cut off. They also have $50-$1000 and $100-$2000. You can also get a private $100-$2000 game opened in the back room, but after I did this they used counter measures on me - half shoed. Beautiful area and lots of skiing nearby.
 

Meistro

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#5
I was there a few days ago. Lost a couple dimes and got backed off a loser; first time that has ever happened to me. Took the train down too... fml.
 

Meistro

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#6
Ah, that is interesting. Complete defensive split strategy is always split everything, unless it starts with an f (face, four, five). The only caveat is don't split 99 vs 7 and do split 44 vs 5 and 6.
 

Brock Windsor

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#7
The important part to remember is for the big bettor. You have to know when to split to two hands and when to play one. 44 vs 5&6 and 99 vs 7 are what I would call offensive splits because you want to play 2 big hands on them. 77 vs 3 is what I would call defensive because you do not want a 2nd big bet out with the split.
BW
 
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