Thunder Valley and Cache Creek near Sacramento, CA

#1
Hi

Has anyone here in blackjackinfo.com gone to both TV and CC in Sacramento, CA before?

I know the rule is dealer must hit on soft17, double allow after split......
 

nc-tom

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#2
jtleon said:
Hi

Has anyone here in blackjackinfo.com gone to both TV and CC in Sacramento, CA before?

I know the rule is dealer must hit on soft17, double allow after split......
jtleon I know both places well. DO NOT BOTHER with Thunder Vally as all tables use CSM. Cache Creek game is at least playable. Dh17 DA2 DAS ins 75%pen table limits $5 to $15.
 

ortango

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nc-tom said:
jtleon I know both places well. DO NOT BOTHER with Thunder Vally as all tables use CSM. Cache Creek game is at least playable. Dh17 DA2 DAS ins 75%pen table limits $5 to $15.
Thanks for the tip tom. I've been to each place once but don't remember conditions since I was a civilian at the time. I do remember that T.V. had CSMs and was packed to the gills, with white men and yellow men giving up the goods to the red man.

With my newfound skills I'll have to exact revenge on Cache Creek for that one time they took my $60 when I was 21 yrs old. :cow:
 

nc-tom

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ortango said:
Thanks for the tip tom. I've been to each place once but don't remember conditions since I was a civilian at the time. I do remember that T.V. had CSMs and was packed to the gills, with white men and yellow men giving up the goods to the red man.

With my newfound skills I'll have to exact revenge on Cache Creek for that one time they took my $60 when I was 21 yrs old. :cow:
I know what you mean ortango. I to have it in for Cache Creek those bast@#ds have kicked my tail my last 7 visits. :whip: They are at the top of my take down list.
 
#5
nc-tom said:
jtleon I know both places well. DO NOT BOTHER with Thunder Vally as all tables use CSM. Cache Creek game is at least playable. Dh17 DA2 DAS ins 75%pen table limits $5 to $15.
where do u live? i understand normally ppl dont visit thunder valley or cache creek if they live far away.

CSM...ya...but if we didn't do card counting, it doesnt matter right?
do u know how many decks were used in thunder valley? i don't see any writing there in their blackjack tables~ i guess they are all 6 decks.

thunder valley recently added 4 two-decks blackjack table.
h17 DA2(9,10,A only) DAS(9,10,A only) both cards dealt to players are face down. not using CSM....i didn't check the pen%.
 
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ortango said:
Thanks for the tip tom. I've been to each place once but don't remember conditions since I was a civilian at the time. I do remember that T.V. had CSMs and was packed to the gills, with white men and yellow men giving up the goods to the red man.

With my newfound skills I'll have to exact revenge on Cache Creek for that one time they took my $60 when I was 21 yrs old. :cow:
:( worse for me....i have lost n * $60 to thunder valley, while n is >10 :cry:
 
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nc-tom said:
I know what you mean ortango. I to have it in for Cache Creek those bast@#ds have kicked my tail my last 7 visits. :whip: They are at the top of my take down list.
i don't dare to try blackjack in cache creek due to my bad experience in TV
i saw some single deck blackjack tables there, but im didnt go close to check the details of the rule.
 

nc-tom

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jtleon said:
where do u live? i understand normally ppl dont visit thunder valley or cache creek if they live far away.

CSM...ya...but if we didn't do card counting, it doesnt matter right?
do u know how many decks were used in thunder valley? i don't see any writing there in their blackjack tables~ i guess they are all 6 decks.

thunder valley recently added 4 two-decks blackjack table.
h17 DA2(9,10,A only) DAS(9,10,A only) both cards dealt to players are face down. not using CSM....i didn't check the pen%.
Well that is interesting to hear about the 2 deck game at TV since it has been some time since I have been there. Was the 2 deck in the high roller pit, if it was that might have been why I missed it.Last time at TV it was all 6 deck CSM with $25 min. and you are right if you are not counting then the CSM dont matter much
 

nc-tom

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jtleon said:
i don't dare to try blackjack in cache creek due to my bad experience in TV
i saw some single deck blackjack tables there, but im didnt go close to check the details of the rule.
The single deck at CC are all 6-5 BJ. Should be avoided.Even though they have beaten up on me as of late the 6 deck game is still a better way to go than the 1 deck.just need to wong the games ( especially wong out) and have the bank roll to support your play.Did notice my last visit in the high roller area they had 2 deck games DA2 no DAS ins with about 60 pen and no mid shoe entry $50 min. still so so.
 
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nc-tom said:
Well that is interesting to hear about the 2 deck game at TV since it has been some time since I have been there. Was the 2 deck in the high roller pit, if it was that might have been why I missed it.Last time at TV it was all 6 deck CSM with $25 min. and you are right if you are not counting then the CSM dont matter much
no, those 2 decks blacjack (4 tables) are all outside not in the high limit table area, TV has just added them in recent months, i didnt see them previously until my last visit. oh ya, they dont allow mid-shoe entry
 
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nc-tom said:
The single deck at CC are all 6-5 BJ. Should be avoided.Even though they have beaten up on me as of late the 6 deck game is still a better way to go than the 1 deck.just need to wong the games ( especially wong out) and have the bank roll to support your play.Did notice my last visit in the high roller area they had 2 deck games DA2 no DAS ins with about 60 pen and no mid shoe entry $50 min. still so so.
experience card counter likes u also cant really make $$ from CC's 2 decks. i would like to know what is the main problem...is that because of the 60% pen?

so now make more sense for me, just a basic strategy BJ player, to aviod playing blackjack in TV and CC. though i have practiced HiLo and KO, i never use them in casino. due to my busy job, i never really had any chance to perfect my counting skills.
 

nc-tom

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jtleon said:
experience card counter likes u also cant really make $$ from CC's 2 decks. i would like to know what is the main problem...is that because of the 60% pen?

so now make more sense for me, just a basic strategy BJ player, to aviod playing blackjack in TV and CC. though i have practiced HiLo and KO, i never use them in casino. due to my busy job, i never really had any chance to perfect my counting skills.
Well JTL the main problem with the CC 2 deck game is the $50 min and the no mid shoe entry.Since you can not backcount the game to wong in on pos counts I dont have the bankroll to support my play. I am interested to know what the rules are at Thunder Valleys 2 deck game . let us know.:)
 
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nc-tom said:
Well JTL the main problem with the CC 2 deck game is the $50 min and the no mid shoe entry.Since you can not backcount the game to wong in on pos counts I dont have the bankroll to support my play. I am interested to know what the rules are at Thunder Valleys 2 deck game . let us know.:)
2 decks
dealer hit on soft 17
double down allow DA2 [9,10, A only]
min $25
no mid-shoe entry

pen%? i didn't check
double down on 9,10, A only? im not sure
double down after split? i saw down down after split only for [9,10, A] but seems likes rules for double down~ but i remember see it double down after split for 9,10 A
 

nc-tom

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jtleon said:
2 decks
dealer hit on soft 17
double down allow DA2 [9,10, A only]
min $25
no mid-shoe entry

pen%? i didn't check
double down on 9,10, A only? im not sure
double down after split? i saw down down after split only for [9,10, A] but seems likes rules for double down~ but i remember see it double down after split for 9,10 A
JTL do they still use CSM for the 2 deck game. Must say those rules are nothing to write home about
 
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