Stay away from hard rock casino in Hollywood Florida

#1
In last 2 weeks have played every day. From 6 to 8 decks and have seen some crazy stuff!!! Been playing blackjack for over 20 years and have never lost as much as i have there. Was in bahamas few weeks back won over 40K in 2 days> i Play the Ko with true count and getting killed there. Today had running counts in KO system and +15 which is very hard to get. And Lost almost every hand I bet into. Counted every 5 in the shoe and hit 32 3 times. Asked Pit boss to see rest of cards she refused!!! Something is very wrong there!!! Stay away!!!!
 
#3
Been counting for years agreed game is bad there. But i know many counters and they all say the same and that it is very hard to win there even on a high count. THink they do something with there ASM machines. I played outside but max bet is only $200 but they do shuffle by handand I have won out there but hard to bet max of only$200 on a good count When U should be betting 1k+. High Limit they shuffle by hand but most of time Min bet is $100 and if there is a $50 table its full. I dont mind bettin $100 min per hand but why waste it waiting for hot shoe.
 

johndoe

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#4
onetobet said:
Been counting for years agreed game is bad there. But i know many counters and they all say the same and that it is very hard to win there even on a high count. THink they do something with there ASM machines. I played outside but max bet is only $200 but they do shuffle by handand I have won out there but hard to bet max of only$200 on a good count When U should be betting 1k+. High Limit they shuffle by hand but most of time Min bet is $100 and if there is a $50 table its full. I dont mind bettin $100 min per hand but why waste it waiting for hot shoe.
It's hard to win there because the game is lousy, not because they are cheating. Your superstitions are clouding your judgment, and you are in no way qualified to bet black on this game. But hey, it's your money.
 

shadroch

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#5
johndoe said:
It's hard to win there because the game is lousy, not because they are cheating. Your superstitions are clouding your judgment, and you are in no way qualified to bet black on this game. But hey, it's your money.
What qualifies a person to bet black? It's his money and if he can afford it, why isn't he qualified?
 
#6
I know im a great counter been doing it for almost 20 years!!! Have a team of guys I know as well and playing at the hardrock none of us can seem to cash in. So if you got 10 good counters and cant win there, that means something is up!!!. As for your black chip comment have bank roll of over 100k+, thats not the problem, when u got many guys counting at differnt tables and everyone losing there and winning in bahamas and vegas something just isnt right there.
 

johndoe

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#7
shadroch said:
What qualifies a person to bet black? It's his money and if he can afford it, why isn't he qualified?
Listen to his rants. He's not doing well there, so is relying on superstition and/or claims of cheating to explain it. That makes him grossly unqualified.

But like I said, hey, it's his money. Go nuts.
 

Lonesome Gambler

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#8
The Hard Rock games are definitely beatable, but if you think that the problem is that they're somehow stacking the decks and not that you're a) playing a bad game and b) playing a 1-2 spread on some of the games (??), then you're wrong. A strong counter with a big bankroll and an aggressive style will beat these games in the long run, but I doubt that's the case here. And if you've been counting for so long, you should know that losing sessions come frequently. Hell, one of the best games I play in Vegas is also one of my biggest losers on the books. They must be cheating?
 

peaegg

Well-Known Member
#9
Similar discussion at the green chip forum

At the green chip forum of bj21.com, there is a long discussion about possible cheating at the same casino. The op call himself Mr. Yuk. I don't know if this against blackjackinof.com's policy to mention another forum. If it is, feel free to delete my post.
 

Lonesome Gambler

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#10
Really though, let's do the math here: at both Seminole HR locations, you have 8-deck games that are typically 2 decks cut off, H17, no RSA, no LS and that have $25 minimums that only sometimes go down to $15. They offer very few comps. Both places are packed 24/7. So really, why do they need to cheat? They're already robbing their clientele blind the old-fashioned way!
 

FLASH1296

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#11
Garbage games

I did very well over a couple of trips to the Hollywood Hard Rock.

14 days (96 hrs)

Then there were plenty of $25 8 deckers with S17.

I have not been back since they went to H17.
 

Lonesome Gambler

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#12
They still have S17 games in the $100min+ room. It's also a 6D game. Still awful, especially considering the limits. The Seminoles have no competition, and that's going to stay the same for the next 5 years at least, since the new deal that has been reached between the tribe and the State.
 
#13
All i was saying is at the tables with the ASM machines its seems very hard to win. I played outside today and hit for 2K with a max bet of only $200 if it was higher would have hit them hard!!!. All i was saying is it seem inside except the high limit room where they hand shuffle is it is very hard to win there.
 

shadroch

Well-Known Member
#15
onetobet said:
In last 2 weeks have played every day. From 6 to 8 decks and have seen some crazy stuff!!! Been playing blackjack for over 20 years and have never lost as much as i have there. Was in bahamas few weeks back won over 40K in 2 days> i Play the Ko with true count and getting killed there. Today had running counts in KO system and +15 which is very hard to get. And Lost almost every hand I bet into. Counted every 5 in the shoe and hit 32 3 times. Asked Pit boss to see rest of cards she refused!!! Something is very wrong there!!! Stay away!!!!


Sounds like you are implying alot more than its hard to win.
 
#16
When you have been playing cards for 20 years i know there are losing streaks, Just hard to beleive other guys playing and counting are coming across the same thing at this particular casino!!!!
 

Sucker

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#17
onetobet said:
I played outside today
Why in the world would anyone continue to play at a casino where they thought they were being cheated? :laugh: :laugh:

After reading all of your comments in this thread it has become quite apparent to me that although you may be qualified to play black chips, you CERTAINLY are not qualified to give anything that resembles an expert opinion on this matter. Either that or you're just plain LYING to us, in an effort to keep us away from your "candy store".:whip:

I'm not even going to tell you how much money I've taken from that place, but I WILL say that I've never had a losing trip there.
 
#18
Lordy..Lordy

Sucker said:
Why in the world would anyone continue to play at a casino where they thought they were being cheated? :laugh: :laugh:

After reading all of your comments in this thread it has become quite apparent to me that although you may be qualified to play black chips, you CERTAINLY are not qualified to give anything that resembles an expert opinion on this matter. Either that or you're just plain LYING to us, in an effort to keep us away from your "candy store".:whip:

I'm not even going to tell you how much money I've taken from that place, but I WILL say that I've never had a losing trip there.
This thread gets an award for blatant BS and narcisism. :rolleyes:

CP



CP
 

Sucker

Well-Known Member
#19
Sounds like you're calling ME a narcissist.
Because I'VE been overly successful at a casino that someone else is accusing of cheating; that means that I must be a BSer or a narcissist?
 

johndoe

Well-Known Member
#20
I've also only had (excellent) winning sessions at this store. Not saying much really, as we aren't talking about a huge data set, but there it is. Saying so is neither BS nor narcissism.
 
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