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Anything you have to do to put food on the table isn't as much fun as when it was a recreational activity (eg., fishing.)

What if all the casinos put in CSMs? You need something to fall back on.

What if all the casinos put in CSMs? You need something to fall back on.

Do you envision me and Scotth grinding away everyday just to make ends meat year after year sacrificing and living a frugile lifestyle forced to keep playing into our 80's? Do you envision us working long hours, doomed into male prostitution to pay rent, resorting to hobo gimmiks in front of casino management to avoid heat, cutting cupons, dumpster diving, chasing losses, living a lonely anti-social life, suffering poor health from the stereotypical gamber lifestyle but no health insurance to get healthy? Do you imagine us as a couple of stupid, spoiled, delusional, ignorant, 20 year olds who have been sheltered our whole lives? Well you're wrong. I don't plan on working past my 20's. This is a get rich quick scheme ok. Eveyone says that it's not, but it is. I'm going to get rich and I'm going to get rich quick. You guys and your negativity. There was some quote somewhere that I don't remember:
What your mind can concieve, you can believe, you can achieve or something. You know when there is a will there is a way. I don't care if blackjack vanishes off the face of the earth today. Eveything happends for a reason and that reason is always self serving. So CSM's will turn my focus to other money making methods where I will get rich even faster. But since it hasn't happened yet, I know that this is the best path for me.

1. CSMs can't stop me from becoming rich.
2. I'm going to enjoy a life of luxuray even durning those brief periods of "work". Because work is play. Otherwise I would do something else.

No. You're both smart guys, you'll smarten up long before that.

Yes! All of the greats have done this at some time or another, better players than me, and better players than you. Read Clarke Cant's Blackjack Therapy essay. He talks about playing coupons, getting your clothes from thrift shops, and finding spare change on the streets. He wrote this back when there was still single deck and 99 cent buffets in Vegas. Then read the rest of the essay and tell me you think you know more about BJ than him.


No. You're not at all stupid.

You won't do it in a casino. You get rich over years to decades of hard work (both at the table and at your computer) and ethical treatment of all you encounter in the business.

Yeah I saw that quote! It was on a poster on a wall at a telemarking outfit I worked at in college, for $5 an hour. The truth is, good ideas are cheap. It's implementation that's the key, and implementation is hard work.



Don't worry about CSM's. Worry about the things you can't conceive of. Worry about someone reaching under the toilet stall whilst you sit relieving yourself and relieving you of half your bankroll. Worry about getting framed up or set up for some crime and having to hand your bankroll over to a criminal defense lawyer.

And worry about variance. What is going to happen when you hit 2 SD of bad variance? You know what a SD is, you know how likely you are to experience this.

We are not one-dimensional AP's. Blackjack is not the only way to do advantage play. We'll "fall back" on those...

Perhaps. But if you were ready for those other types of AP, you'd know Vegas is not nearly the best place for them. As a general rule, the more "off the beaten path" a casino is, the more likely you are to find an advanced-AP opportunity.

Perhaps. But if you were ready for those other types of AP, you'd know Vegas is not nearly the best place for them. As a general rule, the more "off the beaten path" a casino is, the more likely you are to find an advanced-AP opportunity.

Perhaps. But if you were ready for those other types of AP, you'd know Vegas is not nearly the best place for them. As a general rule, the more "off the beaten path" a casino is, the more likely you are to find an advanced-AP opportunity.

Whew a rubber tree is from Monkey Island when Guybrush falls from a cliff and miraculously bounces back up to safety due to a rubber tree. You'd have to play it to understand how funny that part is. I guess it's an inside joke between myself.

Please don't recommend or burn out the north mid-west casinos like J.J. w/4, .75, DAS, S17 before I move back there AM.

Oh, it's like "Whew, I'm sure glad I hit a rubber tree!" :laugh:

Is that a video game?

Well, Nevada is the only state that allows other AP methods such as sportsbetting. I was doing some small +EV action online during all of the last NFL season, but the internet gambling ban screwed that over. I was just starting to get really efficient at it. At the end I would spend hardly any time and would get the same great bets that professionals were making, most even better!

Well, Nevada is the only state that allows other AP methods such as sportsbetting. I was doing some small +EV action online during all of the last NFL season, but the internet gambling ban screwed that over. I was just starting to get really efficient at it. At the end I would spend hardly any time and would get the same great bets that professionals were making, most even better!

Then why don't you just get a bookie?

If he is as successful with his action on sports, bookies don't like you beating their brains in. I imagine (don't have extensive experience in person doing this) that you could spread your action out at different houses in Vegas and not catch a lot of heat if you are that good. Plus, you can shop around for better lines there too.

good luck

Then why don't you just get a bookie?