Avoid Royal River Casino in South Dakota at all costs - this story just reeks

FrankieT

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A prime example of a truly disgusting casino run by a tribe....

(Dead link: http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/online-poker-play46812.html)

This whole story just made me want to vomit, literally. A guy just observing a hand, not even in it, yells out "Go bad beat bonus" after seeing the turn, something like that, and this casino tries to get out of paying a $96k jackpot.

Like there is a 0% chance that a guy with aces full of queens is gonna fold. (what is their logic, if this drunken loser who has been doing this for weeks now at their tables, wouldn't have yelled it out, there is a chance the guy with the Aces full of Queens would have folded?) The casino has absolutely no argument whatsoever, the fact that this is being considered is beyond rediculous and repulsive at the same time.

If you read on in the thread the whole story just makes you want to throw up even more, it's simply that awful. That has to be the dumbest reason in the entire world to hold onto a bad beat jackpot, it truly boggles the mind. As gleamed from the post, is obviously a very bad business decision as well.

These casinos are just bringing out the scummiest Indians (or turning them that way). Just give the Indians hand outs, not the ability to monopolize an industry and to f**k people over with total immunity because they have a monopoly. I think if the law allowed any competition whatsoever they'd be completely bankrupt by now. If they wanna use the hand outs to start a legitimate casino that has to compete with others in Las Vegas, fine. Or if they want to make anybody able to legally open a casino, even better.

I hope this scummy tribe who is behind all this goes bankrupt and lives the rest of their lives as the hunter gatherer society they started out as, reliving their cultural heritage.
 
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shadroch

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Says the lazy whiteman loser who can't be bothered driving an extra twenty minutes to a better game.But I guess you'd have no one to blame then,would you?
 

FrankieT

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Where do you get your balls. I've seen you've run your mouth post after post just pissing on everyone who shows the slightest disgust at a casino, or asks any question, most of them good questions.

I've kept my mouth shut about it, but again here you go, running your mouth, as usual.

Were you raped as a child by your baptist minister or something, that's why you feel the need to be blackjack.info's biggest troll?
 

FrankieT

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#5
I don't make pointless attack posts at the people on these forums (attacks that don't serve AP players or regular casino patrons) on a regular basis like he does... look at his past posts.
 
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Avoid Those High Pay Out Games?

Probably the title does not apply to a bad beat jackpot where you probably play poker for the game and not the jackpot.

However, It appears there is a problem with casinos honoring their large payouts. I witnessed a potential problem in Atlantic City. An elderly woman won about 50g on a nickel slot machine and the casino had an IGT? tech checking the machine.

I can understand the casinos concern regarding the machine. However, from the players perspective the casino is looking for an excuse to not pay the jackpot.

The legality perhaps should be.
If they offer it, they gotta pay it unless they are going to arrest someone for cheating. Then of course the casino should face civil action if unjustified.
 
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FrankieT said:
Where do you get your balls. I've seen you've run your mouth post after post just pissing on everyone who shows the slightest disgust at a casino, or asks any question, most of them good questions.

I've kept my mouth shut about it, but again here you go, running your mouth, as usual.

Were you raped as a child by your baptist minister or something, that's why you feel the need to be blackjack.info's biggest troll?

Are you saying Shadroch is a troll ?
 

callipygian

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FrankieT said:
A prime example of a truly disgusting casino run by a tribe....
I agree.

Solution? Educate yourself on the history of Las Vegas. Nevada and New Jersey have gone through extraordinarily lengths and decades of refinement to get gambling to a respectable, trustworthy level. For all of their faults, the NGC and NJGC should be thanked for making gambling even possible for people who don't have access to automatic weapons. These sorts of incidents (payout disputes) are inevitable when you have a non-transparent system of accountability and the enforcers don't report to the public.

FrankieT said:
Just give the Indians hand outs, not the ability to monopolize an industry and to f**k people over with total immunity because they have a monopoly. I think if the law allowed any competition whatsoever they'd be completely bankrupt by now.
That's the entire point of the laws that allow Indian gaming. If the tribes couldn't run casinos, NOBODY WOULD. They were an exception to the rule of "no gambling" as reparations. They're not getting "special" treatment because the government was going to legalize gambling anyway. They're exercising their rights as sovereign nations (by treaty with the United States government) to run casinos and the United States is tolerating it.

FrankieT said:
I hope this scummy tribe who is behind all this goes bankrupt and lives the rest of their lives as the hunter gatherer society they started out as, reliving their cultural heritage.
Nothing like a good old fashioned racist rant to strip your post of any value it might have had.
 

shadroch

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Exactly.
I often wonder if the Casinos messed up the Atlantic City experiment to insure no other city or state would dare try it,leaving them a very nice monopoly.If it weren't for the Indians,lazy whit folk would need to go a
hell of a lot more than ten miles to hit a casino.
Whats next? A rant about the bignosed jews who run the casinos?
 

Sonny

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Can we get through a single day without a bigoted rant about Native Americans, Jews or anyone else? If this keeps up I'll have to give someone a "time out." Besides, that's what the ZenZone is for.

-Sonny-
 
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Not soverign nations

Just as a quick point, Native reservations are not "sovereign nations" at all. They are subject to every single federal law just like anyone else. Just not state law. So if anyone is defrauded, assaulted, or otherwise mistreated, you can and should drag them to federal court to get justice.
 

FrankieT

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callipygian said:
That's the entire point of the laws that allow Indian gaming. If the tribes couldn't run casinos, NOBODY WOULD. They were an exception to the rule of "no gambling" as reparations. They're not getting "special" treatment because the government was going to legalize gambling anyway. They're exercising their rights as sovereign nations (by treaty with the United States government) to run casinos and the United States is tolerating it.
If they were truly sovereign nations, they would have to use their own money and resources to build the casinos, and do it in a proper competitive manner. They are an artificially ballooned nation, sort of like Iraq.

They are given millions of dollars and the ability to forego the market system. That's going to have repurcussions on them in the future when the Casino run Indians realize in the year 2050 they have no skills to compete in the market (other than setting up slot machines in a monopolized puppet market and watching overly medicated elderly throw away their social security checks).

I would be happier if NOBODY was allowed to build a casino rather than just one group being able to. It's better for them, and it's better for the market.

And I apologize to Shadroch. Apparantly, him being a 350 pound former wrestler/bouncer, being a thug and a bully come naturally to him and I should be more understanding when he abuses the people on these forums. Especially when he gives his stories of outing fellow AP players because they annoy him while he's playing at one of "his" tables. (Isn't there some sort of unwritten code about that? I would never do that crap)

If you want to defend Shadroch (I see he has quite the history on here), that's fine. Just know that he's slurred me at least 3 times in different threads before I said anything back at him. With him throwing all these attacks around one would think he'd be able to defend himself, he's a big boy.

I use the comments about Indians "going back to their cultural heritage" (in a sarcastic, rolling my eyes kind of way) because they constantly use the excuse that the white people somehow took that away from them. That's fine and good, but how does running a Casino get the Indians back to their cultural heritage? When I think of one with nature and the spirit world, I think about Las Vegas Casinos (yeah, right). A lot of tribes suddenly feel "more Indian" when the government suddenly feels the need to grant them ability to build a monopolized Casino, what a joke.

I've seen some nicely run Indians Casinos run by nice, competent Indians who don't abuse their customers (Although they are few and far in between, and a lot of the competently run ones seem to get a lot of help from experienced Vegas veterans who probably gave up Vegas to enjoy jumping on the monopoly bandwagon ).

With all that said, the "racist card" has been used against me in a Johnny Cochranesque fashion, as expected, and I don't expect to dig myself out of that hole. So if anything I am saying resonates feel free to completely ignore it because of the huge Indian hating racist I am apparantly.


As to the original purpose of this thread, here is why you should never go to the Royal River Casino, which happens to be an Indian joint, in South Dakota:

(Dead link: http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/online-poker-play46812-0-asc-0.html)
 
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shadroch

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Since everybody seems to be apologising,I guess I owe DW one,as well.I suppose pretending to be a returning war vet in order to get unwarranted comps is more acceptable than I thought it was.As is calling other races names. I mistakenly thought he was a bigot. My bad.

Yes the Indians should use their own money,just as our sovereign Nation does. Why didn't I think of that.
 

callipygian

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FrankieT said:
If they were truly sovereign nations, they would have to use their own money and resources to build the casinos, and do it in a proper competitive manner ... They are given millions of dollars and the ability to forego the market system.
In the absence of you posting proof that Indian tribes are given money by any government to build their casinos, I'm calling bulls***. They certainly do get money to build their casinos - from investors, bankers, and other casinos, just like everyone else.

joe42 said:
Just as a quick point, Native reservations are not "sovereign nations" at all. They are subject to every single federal law just like anyone else. Just not state law.
I stand corrected; they are "sovereign political entities", not nations.
 
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