Martingale + Card Counting

#1
Casinos love players who try progressive betting strategies or any strategies at all, right? So how about one that works. Using the martingale and card counting is probable to work. Pretty much bet minimum while the count against you and when you get a stable positive count that will stay positive for about 2-3 hands, start using the martingale.
1) Bet Minimum while count is not in favor.
2) When the count moves in your favor, start using the martingale.
3) When the count goes into the casino's favor, start going back down to a minimum flat bet.
Repeat.
The reason I've been looking into this is because for one, it's an easy way to disguise your card counting into a simple betting strategy which casino's welcome. The other reason is that the martingale's ultimate weakness is going on a losing streak that will eventually make the exponential growth of the martingale go out of control. So using it when you have a higher advantage will definitely reduce that risk. Just try it out, it's worked for me so far. It's a great way to disguise card counting. Another thing, going back to the theory in where, where you lose a previous hand in blackjack, your next hand will be more favorable because there was a high chance that your low cards made you lose the last hand so high cards will come out, making you more likely to win. This, with counting on top will greatly reduce the risk of the exponential growth going out of hand to outgrow the table limit.
I know most of you will instantly reject this idea due to the fact that most strategies don't work. But if you think it doesn't work, which it may not, I may of had lucky sims and such but state the reasons why in a constructive way.
 

Pro21

Well-Known Member
#2
If you bet small stakes then there is no need to mess with this kind of cover.

If you are betting big stakes then you will get barred for winning, hence no need to mess with this cover.
 
#3
Pro21 said:
If you bet small stakes then there is no need to mess with this kind of cover.

If you are betting big stakes then you will get barred for winning, hence no need to mess with this cover.
Quick money will add up even when betting 5 dollars an hour with this strategy.
 

kewljason

Well-Known Member
#4
Won't work!! I know I've personally lost a dozen or more hands on numerous occassions. Often times these devistating streaks happen during positive counts, which really shrinks the BR. Other member have mention losing 20 hands in a row. But even at 10 hands in a row, starting with $5. Next bet $5120.
 
#5
kewljason said:
Won't work!! I know I've personally lost a dozen or more hands on numerous occassions. Often times these devistating streaks happen during positive counts, which really shrinks the BR. Other member have mention losing 20 hands in a row. But even at 10 hands in a row, starting with $5. Next bet $5120.
Yea, the reason why I did the count thing is because it will lower your risk of going on that losing streak, but anything is possible and nothing is guaranteed. You can get RNG'd counting as well.
 

ihate17

Well-Known Member
#6
You have the advantage but not in the way where martingale would work

Your advantage in a positive count does not come from having a larger percentage of winning hands compared to losing hands, you still lose more hands, but comes from the 3/2 payout on blackjack and winning more of your double and split hands. So if you go on a losing streak martingale still kills your bankroll.

Now, if in a positive count we actually won more hands than lost, martingale might be worth simming for the player who can handle huge variance.

ihate17
 
#8
Martingale doesnt work! Maybe like 6 weeks ago, I decided to use it on roulette - what I did was I was betting on odd/even black/red or 1-18/19-36. I waited for six odds to happen, then I started to bet on even. The table limit was between $10 to $1000 for these bets. Even though I made close to $ 700, I wouldnt advise using Martingale because I was close to getting my bankrolled and I upped my bet to $ 500 on two occasions and my heart was pounding rapidly.
 

daddybo

Well-Known Member
#9
blackjackstudent said:
Martingale doesnt work! Maybe like 6 weeks ago, I decided to use it on roulette - what I did was I was betting on odd/even black/red or 1-18/19-36. I waited for six odds to happen, then I started to bet on even. The table limit was between $10 to $1000 for these bets. Even though I made close to $ 700, I wouldnt advise using Martingale because I was close to getting my bankrolled and I upped my bet to $ 500 on two occasions and my heart was pounding rapidly.

Gambling usually causes physiological reactions you described.... :laugh:
 
#10
blackjackstudent said:
Martingale doesnt work! Maybe like 6 weeks ago, I decided to use it on roulette - what I did was I was betting on odd/even black/red or 1-18/19-36. I waited for six odds to happen, then I started to bet on even. The table limit was between $10 to $1000 for these bets. Even though I made close to $ 700, I wouldnt advise using Martingale because I was close to getting my bankrolled and I upped my bet to $ 500 on two occasions and my heart was pounding rapidly.
Very creative! Keep it up! You are so close! Sit down and think out a solution to keep your bet down.

Licentia
 

QFIT

Well-Known Member
#11
Licentia said:
Very creative! Keep it up! You are so close! Sit down and think out a solution to keep your bet down.

Licentia
You are telling someone to throw his money away using a system disproved over a century ago.
 
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