What to do if you get screwed with in Wisconsin casinos

FrankieT

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I read beat the players and the chapter that tells you what you should do if the nevada casino ****s with you. Does this same information apply to most Indian casinos?

Is there any book or internet material that tells what you should do if you get ****ed with in a Wisconsin casino - or Indian casinos in general?

If not, does anyone have the answers to these three basic questions:
-If asked for ID, do you have the right to refuse entirely, or do you have to just show it to them without handing it over?
-If they refuse to cash your chips, what should you do?
-Step by stepwhat should you do in an attempted backrooming?

Also, I didn't know it was legal in Nevada to signal players as long as they are in the game with you (whether it be signalling them a hole card, shuffle track info, or the count). Is it also legal in Wisconsin and Minnesota?
 
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paddywhack

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FrankieT said:
I read beat the dealer and the chapter that tells you what you should do if the nevada casino ****s with you. Does this same information apply to most Indian casinos?

Is there any book or internet material that tells what you should do if you get ****ed with in a Wisconsin casino - or Indian casinos in general?

If not, does anyone have the answers to these three basic questions:
-If asked for ID, do you have the right to refuse entirely, or do you have to just show it to them without handing it over?
-If they refuse to cash your chips, what should you do?
-Step by stepwhat should you do in an attempted backrooming?
There have been numerous threads on Indian Casinos and most of the items you've mentioned.

What I'd do, refuse to show ID, walk out the door without cashing my chips, yell like hell and make a huge fuss if they should attempt to get me out of sight. However, it's all dicey on the res.
 

HockeXpert

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#4
FrankieT said:
Also, I didn't know it was legal in Nevada to signal players as long as they are in the game with you (whether it be signalling them a hole card, shuffle track info, or the count). Is it also legal in Wisconsin and Minnesota?
I'm going to guess that Wisconsin and Minnesota have no law that addresses this nor any precedence in which case the defense would use the precedence that has been set in Nevada as grounds for a defense of any prosecution in these states.
 

Eye of the Tiger

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#6
FrankieT said:
I read beat the players and the chapter that tells you what you should do if the nevada casino ****s with you. Does this same information apply to most Indian casinos?

Is there any book or internet material that tells what you should do if you get ****ed with in a Wisconsin casino - or Indian casinos in general?

If not, does anyone have the answers to these three basic questions:
-If asked for ID, do you have the right to refuse entirely, or do you have to just show it to them without handing it over?
-If they refuse to cash your chips, what should you do?
-Step by stepwhat should you do in an attempted backrooming?

Also, I didn't know it was legal in Nevada to signal players as long as they are in the game with you (whether it be signalling them a hole card, shuffle track info, or the count). Is it also legal in Wisconsin and Minnesota?
Personally I think I would quit playing at them if I thought I was going to have trouble or my life was in some kind of danger.
 

paddywhack

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#7
Eye of the Tiger said:
Personally I think I would quit playing at them if I thought I was going to have trouble or my life was in some kind of danger.
Not easily done in that neck of the woods if you want to play without taking a long trip to Vegas.
 

Dyepaintball12

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#9
paddywhack said:
There have been numerous threads on Indian Casinos and most of the items you've mentioned.

What I'd do, refuse to show ID, walk out the door without cashing my chips, yell like hell and make a huge fuss if they should attempt to get me out of sight. However, it's all dicey on the res.
"Causing a disturbance" can be an actual reason for a casino to detain you, though.
 

Dyepaintball12

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#11
paddywhack said:
But at least there'd be witnesses.....
True, but the casino could still spin that against you.

"We tried to calmly reason with him but he started creating a disturbance among other patrons so we had to detain him."

I remember reading in "The Counter" (fiction) that he main guy would try to create a scene like that to better his chances of being allowed to leave because the Casino didn't want other patrons to know they kick out smart players.
 

paddywhack

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#12
Dyepaintball12 said:
True, but the casino could still spin that against you.

"We tried to calmly reason with him but he started creating a disturbance among other patrons so we had to detain him."
Very true, but I'll just reiterate my previous post.

paddywhack said:
However, it's all dicey on the res.
 

Blue Efficacy

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#14
If you're not a high roller I am guessing you can relax and lay off the paranoid fantasies. If you're not an ass chances are the worst that will happen is they will rudely bar you and toss you out.
 

FrankieT

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#15
Blue Efficacy said:
If you're not a high roller I am guessing you can relax and lay off the paranoid fantasies. If you're not an ass chances are the worst that will happen is they will rudely bar you and toss you out.

Well it's good to have answers to "what if" scenarios.
 
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