Weekend Warriors

jack.jackson

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aslan said:
Is there a free software we can use to play our sessions?
Im thinkin:confused: But cant think of anything of the top of my head. KC has a FREE blackjack game.

Also you should reconsider KCs software program(tdca) . Not only does it have a awesome appearence, it calculates exact ev,eor, for any # of decks w/any set of rules, and keeps the count for you, in which you can view at all times. Superb! For the price you really cant beat it

I just spent 250$+ @ qfit, when I really couldnt afford it. But ill have for life:)

Ps. I really enjoyed your earlier post about the homeless. You have a great way with words. Well written.
 

jack.jackson

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aslan said:
Sage, jj and others

I went up to Altantic City this week. The difference getween Weekend Warriors and the casinos was staggering. The reality of what a grind it is to make a few dollars hit me like a ton of bricks. I won $350 in three sessions. The last session lasted six hours and broke dead even after being down almost $300. The first two sessions I played $10 tables which was actually two high for my bankroll criteria (100 X mad bet). The third session was at a $5 table which fits a br of $5,000 perfectly. Fortunately, I also won $150 at Deuces Wild VP--I hit four deuces for $250 on a 25 cent machine, but my net gain at the end of the day was $250. Unfortunately, the home where my Mom lives called me about her having a blood clot in her leg, so I cut my trip short. She is in the hospital getting blood thinner to break up the clot; it will probably take another day. There is always a chance that the clot can break loose and go to her lungs which the doctor says would kill her. So even though I don't think the lung scenario is high risk, it still keeps one on edge.

It just occurred to me that had I played my third session at the $10 table instead of the $5 table, I would have been down nearly $600 during that session, which is far more than I ended up winning. Variance is a bear! When it's real money, it brings home the reality that counting is still GAMBLING!
I was wondering where you were:confused:

Well consider even a 1$ ahead a victory. Even though its been a long time since I gambled, even losing a little can depress you for days on in. Consider yourself blessed:angel:

Ya, Ive heard about those blood clots in the lung. Actually I dont think its the actual clot that kills you. I think the clot causes a serious infection, like pheumonia, or something. Kinda like what Bernie Mac died from.
Anyway if it makes you feel better to write about it. Then by all means, go rite ahead.
 
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jack.jackson

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Canceler said:
And after all the lobbying I did to get the conditions to conform to the BS Trainer... :cry:
Well I cant even spell off right, so what do I know. I think Im going back, to a plug-in keyboard. Damn wireless:whip:

KC, weve declared a new war..lol
 
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aslan

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jack said:
Well I cant even spell off right, so what do I know. I think Im going back, to a plug-in keyboard. Damn wireless:whip:

KC, weve declared a new war..lol
Then the BJ Trainer on this site is fine? That's great. I had forgotten about it.
 

k_c

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sagefr0g said:
lmao your not just slow k_c the war is over. :rolleyes:
but a new one wwII has commenced.
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=11192
Yeah I know WW1 is done for you guys.

sagefr0g said:
so anyway what's your thoughts on the not enough simulated rounds for the number of possible shuffles issue? does it mean maybe we might be looking through a glass darkley so take it with a grain of salt sorta thing but still we know we might can get an edge playing trillions of rounds so your chances are still on a fairly solid footing? is this sort of thing we are discussing have anything to do with risk of ruin considerations?
edit: oops but you already know about wwII cause that where we was discussing this. lmao :eek:
I was doing something a little different in that I am using exact pre-round EVs in conjunction with a sim. To me the shuffles issue still exists but I hope that by using mathematically calculated EVs for each and every round then what is expected will become apparent in very far fewer rounds/shoes. What actually happens is in the short term but as more data is added this should tend to coincide with what is expected. What is expected is simply the average pre-round calculated EV at each count/spread level and I think this tends to somewhat stabilize without the need to sim an overwhelming number of shoes. The more the merrier, however. :grin:

I could possibly pack over 1300 6 deck/80% pen WW1 shoes into my version of Excel (65536 cells.) With my computer and the time I have right now it would take a long time to generate 1300 shoes. I am going to send my data generation program to a friend of mine with a faster computer to get an idea of how much faster the process can be. I'm sure it'll be at least 10 time faster than my generation rate and hopefully more.

And as Mr. sagefr0g once said, "That's my take on it. Your mileage may vary." Or something like that.
 

aslan

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For anyone using the BJinfo trainer, don't forget to start over when 69 cards have been dealt during the latest round, to effect 67% pen. ;)
 

aslan

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Canceller! I hear you have created software for playing Weekend Warriors. I'd like to use a copy if you are making them available. No problem if you're not. Thanks.
 

k_c

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This is the last time I will post that I have added to and updated my WW1 data since WW1 is basically relegated now to the History Channel. :grin: If I add anything in the future I'll just do it without posting.

A couple of observations:

RoR using Griffin's method from Theory of Blackjack -
Flat bet:
bank=100 units, goal=200 units seems to be about 71%-72%
bank=1000 units, goal=2000 units seems to be 99.99%
bank=10000 units, goal=20000 units seems to be 100%

Hi-Lo (Warrior spread, max bet = 24 units)
bank=100 units, goal=200 units seems to be about 44%-46%
bank=1000 units, goal=2000 units seems to be about 16%-17%
bank=10000 units, goal=20000 is (approaches) 0%

Unbalanced KO (using Aslan's bet spread, max bet = 10 units)
bank=100 units, goal=200 units seems to be about 44%-45%
bank=1000 units, goal=2000 units seems to be about 10%-11%
bank=10000 units, goal=20000 is (approaches) 0%

True counted KO (Warrior spread, max bet = 24 units)
bank=100 units, goal=200 units seems to be about 44%-47%
bank=1000 units, goal=2000 units seems to be about 14%
bank=10000 units, goal=20000 is (approaches) 0%

Cut card effect -
Average pre-deal EV so far has seemed to vary from about -.44% to -.47%. However, the average Hi-Lo TC has been varying from about -.10 to -.13. The average true counted KO TC has been varying from about -4.11 to -4.13. It would seem that in the long run average Hi-Lo TC should approach 0 and average true counted KO TC should approach -4. If the actual pre-deal EV is interpolated to a 0 Hi-Lo or -4 TKO true count then that would be pretty close to the full shoe EV. If, however, it can be said that the cut card actually causes the TC to be more negative than one might expect then I guess that's the cut card effect. Common sense tells me that there is no reason to think that average TC can't be positive just as easily as negative, but who knows for sure? Also at the same time that average TC has been negative, the flat bettor has been tending to do well which isn't that surprising because that's an indication that on balance a few more high cards are being dealt than low cards but at the same time this causes the average pre-deal EV to lower. This seems to be an intricate problem. I guess my advice at this point would echo the old NFL highlight films, "You make the call!" :devil:
 
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