Best Ontario casino's?

#1
Hello all.

I'm looking for a description of the games for casinos in Ontario. I will provide for Fallsview Casino and Casino Niagara.

Neither of these offer outstanding games, 8D DAS S17 no surrender with about 70% pen give or take 5%.

Casino niagara only has one shoe game on the floor, and the rest are CSM. During the day, table min is usually $15, then goes to $25 in the evening.
The back room is $50min, 6D with same rules as 8D, adding no mid-shoe entry to this game

Fallsview casino has about 7-8 games on the floor that don't use CSM. All 8D games, same rules as above. Only about 2 of these tables are usually $15 min during the day, (and usually stay that way in the evening), the rest are $25 min, and there is one table at $50 min.

The back room is $100 min, 6D, no mid-shoe entry, same rules as above

Anyways,
Please post information about any casino's you are familiar with in Ontario,
Are there any with 6D games on the floor?
 

Brock Windsor

Well-Known Member
#3
8deck, DOA, DAS, S17 75% pen on the floor. 6 deck with same rules and $100 minimum NMSE in the VIP. Half hand shuffled half ASM on the floor. Hand shuffled in the VIP. You might find a $5 table in the morning on a weekday but your best bet counting is to backcount $25 tables. Ive seen a few 6 deck games at the OLG casinos, but they are always $25min, $100 max and few/no comps. Best game in the broader area is Senecca Casino in Niagara Falls NY due to faster dealers, slightly better pen, and higher table max.
BW
 

actuary

Well-Known Member
#4
Caesars Windsor

Caesars Windsor: You can usually find empty $10 tables on weekday mornings until about 11am. If you are lucky, you might even find a $5 early on a Tuesday or Wednesday morning. After that, they tend to go to $15 and $25 and stay there for the rest of the night. The $15 tables get crowded after 5pm. Avoid nights with big concerts.

On the regular gaming floor they deal 8 decks, S17, DAS, split to 4 hands, double any number, dealer peeks, no surrender - typical Ontario rules (except the CNE). The only exception is the Winners Option tables, where they only let you split aces once.

Penetration varies by the dealer, usually 70-80%. There are no CSMs. All tables on the floor use ASMs. The VIP uses 6 decks, same rules, minimum seems to be $50 and $100, but I haven't been there in a while. They used to have great $25 tables in VIP but those left when Caesars took over.

By far, I prefer Caesars Windsor over any other casino in Ontario. The charity casinos don't let you bet more than $100 and have terrible comps (if any). Rama, Fallsview and Niagara are too crowded and have CSMs on some/most tables.
 

Brock Windsor

Well-Known Member
#7
If you're in Windsor you've got 3 casinos on the Detroit side. If you like to scout out a lot of tables then this might be worthwhile. If not I don't think the RSA rule is worth the trip, play with the shortest drive possible. Some bus tour companies offer $10 casino rides or even free.
BW
 
#9
Went to Fallsview last Fri. night.

Ontario is ridiculous now. ALL CSM's except for one 8D $50-$1000 table.

Oh well, I just sat there backcounting and would throw a bet down near the end of the shoe if it was a good count. Always fun pissing off the ploppies with putting a bet out after not betting any part of a shoe previously.

And it was entertaining watch some guy blow through $10K in under 25mins.
 

blackchipjim

Well-Known Member
#13
Ontario Canada report 7-09

I'm sorry to say that ontario canada is got to be one of the worst conditions I have seen around. I went up there over the july 4 weekend and was greatly disappointed. The games for low rollers like myself are gone so forget the whole place in general. The high limit games have csms and the upper limit is too low to make up for the disadvantage. It's sad to see the place go downhill so fast,I will not go back to the canada side in the falls. blackchipjim
 

blackchipjim

Well-Known Member
#15
spread on csms

I do not subscribe to the notion that csms are beatable. No spread gives you an advantage with the machine. I was surpised to see the amount of people playing high min tables with them. blackchipjim
 
#16
no suprise...

blackchipjim said:
.... machine. I was surpised to see the amount of people playing high min tables with them. blackchipjim
Not surprising at all since about 99% of players are ploppy basic strategy players at best. We tend to forget that. For them it really doesnt matter whether the tables are ASM, CSM, or hand shuffled. None of them is 'beatable' in the long run for them.

FrankD
 

Martin Gayle

Well-Known Member
#18
Ceasar's Windsor

Stopped in here last week while in the Detroit area. This used to be a good casino for 8 deck games but it has changed.

They are now the only casino in Ontario that has a H17 game!! They should be disappointed in themselves. The limits were extraordinary. You could spread from $25-$25000 on the floor.

They are looking for whale action in the Detroit area.

As for Detroit casinos the rules seem to be the same - a mix of H17 and S17 and a mix of tables from $10-$25 minimum and some CSM action esp at Greektown. Detroit is considerably busier that Windsor.
 

halcyon1234

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#20
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