Shuffle Tracking at the Atlantis Bahamas

#1
I am planning a trip to the Atlantis within the next few weeks. Have not been in probably seven to ten years. Anyway, can anyone describe the shuffle to me on the 6d game?
 

RJT

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#3
tyrone jackson said:
I am planning a trip to the Atlantis within the next few weeks. Have not been in probably seven to ten years. Anyway, can anyone describe the shuffle to me on the 6d game?
TBH, if you're inexperienced enough to ask a question detailing the location you're intending to play and asking for someone to spell out the weaknesses in the game, then you're nowhere near experienced enough to shuffle track.

RJT.
 

Bojack1

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#5
tyrone jackson said:
I am planning a trip to the Atlantis within the next few weeks. Have not been in probably seven to ten years. Anyway, can anyone describe the shuffle to me on the 6d game?
I would say its most important to acquire the tools on how to track first, then the actual shuffle is just an elementary function of your knowledge of tracking. Seeing and duplicating a shuffle is easy enough done on site, and it won't take long to realize if its a go or not. Being able to cut, estimate, follow, and keep track of shoe sections accurately should be the prime concern and should be well worked out before you actually try tracking.
 

Pro21

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#6
Tyrone, good to see you back in the game man.

One of the big problems with this site is you ask a very simple, direct question, and you get answers to everything except what you asked. Sorry, I haven't been down there so I can't answer your question either.
 

RJT

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#7
Pro21 said:
Tyrone, good to see you back in the game man.

One of the big problems with this site is you ask a very simple, direct question, and you get answers to everything except what you asked. Sorry, I haven't been down there so I can't answer your question either.
Putting aside that this is a new poster who could quite simply be anyone, you would post that sort of information on a public forum? I wouldn't.

RJT.
 

Bojack1

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#8
Pro21 said:
Tyrone, good to see you back in the game man.

One of the big problems with this site is you ask a very simple, direct question, and you get answers to everything except what you asked. Sorry, I haven't been down there so I can't answer your question either.
That being said, my answer, and my opinion still stand. To me it doesn't get more simple. I don't travel out of the country to play a shuffle on info given to me by people I don't know. And if I happen to be visiting a casino for the first time, or one that I have not been at in a while, it doesn't take long to figure out what type of shuffle is being performed once you get there. So my bottomline simple answer is, you'll find out when you get there, or ask someone you know and trust if you plan on making a special trip there.
 

Pro21

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#9
I'm assuming this is the Tyrone that I've known for 10 or 15 years. Yes, he will know if the shuffle is trackable or not as soon as he sees it if it .

All casinos know what their own shuffle procedure is, so simply describing it without editorializing about it (ie. this shuffle is so beatable - or - I hope other casinos don't adopt this shuffle) will hurt no one.

Tyrone, I would email or PM Kim Lee. I think he has been there recently.
 
#11
Nice

Bojack1 said:
I would say its most important to acquire the tools on how to track first, then the actual shuffle is just an elementary function of your knowledge of tracking. Seeing and duplicating a shuffle is easy enough done on site, and it won't take long to realize if its a go or not. Being able to cut, estimate, follow, and keep track of shoe sections accurately should be the prime concern and should be well worked out before you actually try tracking.
Nice info Bojack. I hear said from an excellent tracker that you are even better than he, that would pretty much make you the best there is.:cool:

Thanks for posting.

CP
 

RJT

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#12
Pro21 said:
All casinos know what their own shuffle procedure is, so simply describing it without editorializing about it (ie. this shuffle is so beatable - or - I hope other casinos don't adopt this shuffle) will hurt no one.
What i find surprising is that someone with experience would ask on a message board for this information. Even the simple stuff like what pen is getting offered on average at casino x is remarkably unreliable when taken off unknown sources online at the best of times. If you were going to plan a trip based on this information, there's a very good chance you'd be wasting your time and if you're going there anyway it would seem to be just as easy to scope it for yourself.

RJT.
 
#13
I am not a newbie

Pro21, I am the Tyrone Jackson that you have known for 10-15 years. Good to hear from you again. To clarify for the community, I got an invite to stay three nights at the Cove. After researching, I realized that this is their newest tower, and it is really nice. That being said, my primary goal is always to win at 21. Pro21 can tell all that I have been playing a very long time, I have won quite a bit of money playing and quite a bit over the years shuffle tracking. I was able to track the Bahamas shuffle years ago, but do not know what the shuffle looks like now. For that matter, they could even have shuffle machines. Any description of the shuffle would give me some idea of how I will attack the game, how long my sessions will be, spread needed to win etc. Most importantly, althought I have a reservation, I have not bought a plane ticket. If I get some answers, and they are not favorable, I could cancel the trip and play somewhere more profitable. OBTW can anyone report on the penetration?
 

Blue Efficacy

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#14
Pro21 said:
I'm assuming this is the Tyrone that I've known for 10 or 15 years. Yes, he will know if the shuffle is trackable or not as soon as he sees it if it .

All casinos know what their own shuffle procedure is, so simply describing it without editorializing about it (ie. this shuffle is so beatable - or - I hope other casinos don't adopt this shuffle) will hurt no one.

Tyrone, I would email or PM Kim Lee. I think he has been there recently.
I wholeheartedly disagree.

You honestly think that posting about a casino with a 6D game, one pass single riffle, no discard plugging, as long as you don't say it is good that game won't get torched to the ground?

I know of some weak shuffles that I will only discuss with people I trust. I know a couple of extremely weak shuffles that remain with me to the grave :joker:
 
#15
Blue

Blue Efficacy said:
I wholeheartedly disagree.

You honestly think that posting about a casino with a 6D game, one pass single riffle, no discard plugging, as long as you don't say it is good that game won't get torched to the ground?

I know of some weak shuffles that I will only discuss with people I trust. I know a couple of extremely weak shuffles that remain with me to the grave :joker:


Nice Blue, and I agree with you,,,but really I think you have already said too much that need not be said. Maybe try to edit out details.:)

CP
 

psyduck

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#16
Blue Efficacy said:
You honestly think that posting about a casino with a 6D game, one pass single riffle, no discard plugging,
Stupid casinos with such simple shuffle deserve any hit they will get. I guess they are either stupid or they use it as a trap?
 
#17
Dealing Cards = Money

psyduck said:
Stupid casinos with such simple shuffle deserve any hit they will get. I guess they are either stupid or they use it as a trap?
Casinos err by having complex shuffles that waste time. The casinos would make more money with simple shuffles and deep cuts. They make money when cards are being dealt, not when they are being shuffled.

Casinos need to keep the cards dealing:joker::whip:
 

moo321

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#18
Yeah, you're way better off having a simple shuffle and actually knowing how it can be beat. Just back off the two or three teams that come in a year, and you'll be set. There are so few competent shuffle trackers it's not worth changing your routine to protect from them.
 

bigplayer

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#20
tyrone jackson said:
Pro21, I am the Tyrone Jackson that you have known for 10-15 years. Good to hear from you again. To clarify for the community, I got an invite to stay three nights at the Cove. After researching, I realized that this is their newest tower, and it is really nice. That being said, my primary goal is always to win at 21. Pro21 can tell all that I have been playing a very long time, I have won quite a bit of money playing and quite a bit over the years shuffle tracking. I was able to track the Bahamas shuffle years ago, but do not know what the shuffle looks like now. For that matter, they could even have shuffle machines. Any description of the shuffle would give me some idea of how I will attack the game, how long my sessions will be, spread needed to win etc. Most importantly, althought I have a reservation, I have not bought a plane ticket. If I get some answers, and they are not favorable, I could cancel the trip and play somewhere more profitable. OBTW can anyone report on the penetration?

LOL, I never knew your internet handle until recently...just your real name. Taking advantage of that stereotype my friend. Our mutual friend from just south of you (P.W.) clued me in as to who you were.
 
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