I talked to someone yesterday who got backed off at

BJLFS

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EC some years ago for winning $800! :laugh: They had security escort him out after he cahed out. $800?? That's it?!?! Man that place is a sweat shop.

He mentioned it was in LV and the first thing I said was the EC!
 

Billy C1

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BJLFS said:
EC some years ago for winning $800! :laugh: They had security escort him out after he cahed out. $800?? That's it?!?! Man that place is a sweat shop.

He mentioned it was in LV and the first thing I said was the EC!
How much you win (or lose) isn't typically the determining factor for heat. It would be "how" you play the game.

BillyC1
 

BJLFS

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Billy C1 said:
How much you win (or lose) isn't typically the determining factor for heat. It would be "how" you play the game.

BillyC1
You know what's funny is I know that he is not an AP.
 

Lonesome Gambler

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No doubt about it, EC is terrified of action. The game is good, but it's tough to win any significant money there nowadays, so I usually avoid it. However, it's worth stopping by for a look at the new cocktail menu!
 

BJLFS

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Lonesome Gambler said:
No doubt about it, EC is terrified of action. The game is good, but it's tough to win any significant money there nowadays, so I usually avoid it. However, it's worth stopping by for a look at the new cocktail menu!
Check your PM.
 

Lonesome Gambler

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I looked at their games the same way recently, but I managed to escape unscathed. However, I did play a MP for kicks and spread pretty hard on their DD game for two shoes... for nickels, of course (I was on vacation)!
 

White Guy

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That happened to me in Silverton while playing nickels at their barely playable game for 15 min. Minus the escort. I didn't even win any $$ and was not even there to play but to shop at BPS.
 

Wookets

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Richard Munchkin said:
In the old days I had several friends backed off without ever placing a bet. Just the way they were looking at the tables got them backed off.
"We know what you're doing; get out of here!" :laugh:
 

Sharky

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Sucker said:
Yes. I have taken five figures out of that place probably 10-20 times over the years, and have never once gotten ANY kind of heat at all.
$10k+?....must be a pun

was it on slot m/c's?

oh, i got it....you are counting decimal places...$999.99, ok, i'll buy that!
 
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Sucker

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Sharky said:
$10k+?....must be a pun
was it on slot m/c's?
oh, i got it....you are counting decimal places...$999.99, ok, i'll buy that!
Sorry, but I had thought that Billy C1 explained it very well:
Billy C1 said:
How much you win (or lose) isn't typically the determining factor for heat. It would be "how" you play the game.
BillyC1
The biggest mistake that the average card counter makes when he plays at the EC is that he utilizes too big of a betting spread. The games in that place (or anywhere else, for that matter) can easily be beaten by flat betting, if using one or some of the more advanced playing techniques. But that ALONE won't do it. You MUST be able to show them a good enough act. If so, you'll just about last forever in the El Cortez.
 

Sucker

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BJLFS said:
You know what's funny is I know that he is not an AP.
Perhaps he had a bit too much to drink that night? In the El Cortez, I've seen many a ploppy escorted out for this very reason, whether winning OR losing. (After all, you DID only hear ONE side of the story!) :laugh:
 

21forme

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Sucker said:
The biggest mistake that the average card counter makes when he plays at the EC is that he utilizes too big of a betting spread.
I have a friend who got backed off raising his bet there from $10 to $20 :laugh:
Why even bother with that sh*hole?
 

kewljason

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21forme said:
I have a friend who got backed off raising his bet there from $10 to $20 :laugh:
Why even bother with that sh*hole?
Because it is one of the better games in town. :laugh: I play about 3 times a month. (usually when I am in the area for other reasons, rather than specifically traveling to the game). Very short sessions. Spreading green to light black and have been backed off only once. Again, this amounts to only a very limited number of hands. Probably 5-600 per year. I would prefer to get more than that at this location, but I will take what I can get. No sense in skipping the opportunity altogether. :)

Also, EC, like most places has times that are a little better than others. You just gotta do some homework. I have identified a little bit of a 'sweet spot' (time and personnel that are a little more tolerant) If you ever decide to again grace this town that you despise so much, 21, I will be happy to forward that to you. :p
 
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21forme

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kewljason said:
Because it is one of the better games in town. :laugh: I play about 3 times a month. (usually when I am in the area for other reasons, rather than specifically traveling to the game).
So is the MGM DD game. That doesn't mean I play it.

I'm glad you mentioned that you go there when you're in the area for other reasons, otherwise I would have commented on the inefficiency of traveling to a low-roller game you can only play for 15 minutes.
 
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backed off

i won 3.5 k at a place and i was banned, i asked another friend who was banned at the same place about his experience, he said he was banned after winning only 0.4 k. every casino is different.
 

aslan

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White Guy said:
That happened to me in Silverton while playing nickels at their barely playable game for 15 min. Minus the escort. I didn't even win any $$ and was not even there to play but to shop at BPS.
That reminds me of the Silverado where I was playing before I learned card counting. I was playing "mimic the dealer," that is, hitting everything 16 and below, and staying on 17 and above. I was winning for hours until it got to the point that I would miss my plane if I stayed any longer. It was one of the few times I ever won with this stupid strategy (I should call it stradegy, because it doesn't deserve the former designation). Anyway, I guess I was saved by the need to leave before I was ready. :eek::laugh:
 

BJLFS

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aslan said:
That reminds me of the Silverado where I was playing before I learned card counting. I was playing "mimic the dealer," that is, hitting everything 16 and below, and staying on 17 and above. I was winning for hours until it got to the point that I would miss my plane if I stayed any longer. It was one of the few times I ever won with this stupid strategy (I should call it stradegy, because it doesn't deserve the former designation). Anyway, I guess I was saved by the need to leave before I was ready. :eek::laugh:
BTW Mimic the dealer according to:
http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack
 
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