Is there any reason not to use KO over Hi-Lo in 6 deck games?

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FrankieT said:
Count per 1/4 deck on 2 deck games.
A 1/4D TC, right?
I'm sure you don't change to different indices when you play 6D, right?
Therefore you use 1/4DTC at 6D also, correct? ZEN'98?
FrankieT said:
I ran a sim comparing the two using the same conditions, and Full 6 deck KO had a very slight advantage in SCORE as Complete Zen (with top 22 indexes) on 6 deck
How many indices did full KO have??
And was the sim using ZEN'83 or ZEN'98? zg
 

FrankieT

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zengrifter said:
A 1/4D TC, right?
I'm sure you don't change to different indices when you play 6D, right?
Therefore you use 1/4DTC at 6D also, correct? ZEN'98?

How many indices did full KO have??
And was the sim using ZEN'83 or ZEN'98? zg
Oh sorry no, not 98 zen but 83 zen - so therefore it's not 1/4 DTC, it's 1DTC.

I thought you were talking about True Count Resolution. I forgot about 98 zen.

Yes I compared Complete Zen (that's what it's called on casino verite) with KO
 
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FrankieT said:
Oh sorry no, not 98 zen but 83 zen - so therefore it's not 1/4 DTC, it's 1DTC.

For some reason I thought you were talking about True Count Resolution

Yes I compared Complete Zen (that's what it's called on casino verite) with KO
Okay, you passed the TC test..:laugh:. but I am sure that something is off if KO is beating ZEN at 6D. zg
 

FrankieT

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zengrifter said:
Okay, you passed the TC test..:laugh:. but I am sure that something is off if KO is beating ZEN at 6D. zg
They weren't that far apart.

Comparing Zen w/ 22 indexes with Full KO 2 deck on a 2 deck game, zen w/ 22 indexes comes out way ahead.
 
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Wookets

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FrankieT said:
I never noticed how effective KO was compared to Hi-Lo - it has a better betting correlation and the same playing efficiency. I always assumed unbalanced counts were inferior to balanced counts and never gave them any attention.

Is there any reason not to use KO over Hi-Lo in 6 deck games?
Check out these threads:

(Dead link: http://www.beyondcounting.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=376&sid=b34bacc72a6cb6e867f2870ffbe31939) - a nice Hi-Lo vs. KO comparison by James Grosjean.

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=23007 - a set of sims. comparing Zen and KO in 8D games. You may be surprised by the results.
 
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