Advice for Best BJ Rules for 6D in Vegas...

#1
Hello, I'm new to the site. I am heading to Vegas March 24 for 3 days. I am primarily a recreational BJ player who plays strictly BS. I am practicing counting but for this trip, my wife and I are travelling with 2 other couples for fun and I'll probably be too distracted (and possibly too drunk ;)) to attempt counting.

Any advice on casinos with the more attracive rules for 6d BJ? Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
 

shadroch

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#4
If you aren't comforable spreading to $100 a hand, then the $25 tables aren't for you. Flat betting $25 a hand is a losing strategy.
You are better off playing a $10 table and spreading 10-50 than flatbetting $25. Even if one table is S17, and the other is H17.
 
#6
Yeah, I'm not comfortable spreading up to $100. I normally bet $15-$50. So, are there any $10 tables with more favorable rules that you are aware of? :)Thank you very much for your input!
 

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
#7
Yes & No

The simple answer is YES, but there are only a few
low stakes shoe games with very good rules extant.

They are found at some of the MGM properties that offer
75% pen' with S17, with Late Surrender and resplit aces.

You will find these table are few in number and are always crowded;
and they may be completely absent if you go looking on a weekend
or in prime early evening hours.

Monte Carlo

Mandalay Bay
 
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#8
Thanks for the replies. I have BS mastered but I've been practicing the high/low count and I think I may try it. I feel it's pretty easy but, then again, I don't have the alcohol/other distractions at home! The idea is very exciting to me though. I do not want Joe Pesci digging a ditch for me in the desert! LOL!

:juggle:
 

callipygian

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#9
I don't know why people never give the advice asked for. :rolleyes:

If you're not counting, you're probably going to lose money, so the point is to lose as little as possible. Play the lowest limits and flat bet the table minimum. Play at crowded tables so the game is slow. Rules don't have as much of an effect as the hands per hour and the table minimum. Undoubtedly, your best bet is to find a $5 table, even if it has "crappy" rules, and play in the evenings when the tables are crowded. The Tropicana, I believe, is the most reliable source of $5 tables on the Strip, and I'm sure there's a ton downtown (but I don't go downtown very often so I don't know them). Luxor, Excalibur, Monte Carlo, and Treasure Island sometimes have $5 tables, but only during slow times. You can also try whatever casino Barbary Coast became (Bill's?), they used to have $5 tables as well.

If you are counting, then you need to worry about other things, among other things, the increased variance of spreading your bets and penetration.

But if you're not going to make a serious attempt at card counting, don't waste your vacation playing a half-assed game that's still EV negative because you're drunk and make BS mistakes. Just enjoy yourself, enjoy the time with your wife, budget a loss on gambling, and use anything over your budgeted loss to hire a hooker for a threesome.
 

shadroch

Well-Known Member
#10
callipygian said:
I don't know why people never give the advice asked for. :rolleyes:


I'm sorry, but what part of your little tirade has anything to do with helping
him find the best 6 Deck BJ, which is the advice he asked for?
 

callipygian

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#11
shadroch said:
what part of your little tirade has anything to do with helping him find the best 6 Deck BJ, which is the advice he asked for?
The largest paragraph?

Come on, the guy admits he'll likely be drunk at the tables and that he's just learning to count now. Prince Dragon nailed it right on.
 

shadroch

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#12
You rant about us not giving the advice he was looking for, and then give an unsolicited lecture on drinking? He asked about 6 deck games, something you completely ignored. Your advice would have been fine , if not for the irony of you doing exactly what you disparaged everyone else for doing- not answering his specific request. He didn't ask about $5 tables, he didn't ask about playing at full tables, he asked about 6 Deck games.
 

callipygian

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#13
shadroch said:
He asked about 6 deck games, something you completely ignored.
No, I answered specifically for 6D games. Just because I didn't feel I needed to explicitly state that I'm talking about 6D doesn't mean I wasn't.

Did you confuse my answer with $5 DD games at Tropicana/MC/Bill's or something?
 

Cherry7Up

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#14
callipygian said:
The Tropicana, I believe, is the most reliable source of $5 tables on the Strip, and I'm sure there's a ton downtown (but I don't go downtown very often so I don't know them). Luxor, Excalibur, Monte Carlo, and Treasure Island sometimes have $5 tables, but only during slow times. You can also try whatever casino Barbary Coast became (Bill's?), they used to have $5 tables as well.
During my visit in February, the Bellagio also had two $5 6D/H17/DAS/RSA/LS tables open all day (it was mid-week though; weekend might be different). These tables used continuous shuffling machines, but that doesn't effect you much as a basic strategy player. At least one of these tables is also smoke-free (which I find to be a plus).

There are certainly places where you can get better rules (6D S17, or 2D S17), but I have to agree that sticking with a $5 table rather than a $15 or $25 game with better rules is good advice.
 
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