sometimes it pays to tip

#1
I was playing BJ a couple of weeks ago, early in the morning, I was playing head to head for appox three hours, I never take insurance, it got to the point that she showed an Ace up so many times she stopped asking me, I told her I never take insurance. I had been tipping her all night long, so this one hand I had bj and she had a Ace showing, she turns over her bj and says sorry dealer mistake. I did not ask you for insurance, she never called the pit boss. I had a $250 bet down. I know it was because of the tipping. That could have never happened in AC a couple of months ago when you had to take insurance by putting up half your bet in the insurance circle.
 

EasyRhino

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#4
So... she treated the hand as a push, as if you had placed insurance?

How much do you think you tipped over that three hours. Were you acting generlly agreeable, or being a douche?

Also, when she flipped over the card, did she use the little peek device, or forget to use it? Did you have a pat hand, and maybe she was just playing out her hand without the peek? She really might have broken a minor piece of procedure.
 

mdlbj

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#6
rap3094 said:
I was playing BJ a couple of weeks ago, early in the morning, I was playing head to head for appox three hours, I never take insurance, it got to the point that she showed an Ace up so many times she stopped asking me, I told her I never take insurance. I had been tipping her all night long, so this one hand I had bj and she had a Ace showing, she turns over her bj and says sorry dealer mistake. I did not ask you for insurance, she never called the pit boss. I had a $250 bet down. I know it was because of the tipping. That could have never happened in AC a couple of months ago when you had to take insurance by putting up half your bet in the insurance circle.
Or if the count dictated, you would have made even money with an insurance bet of half your original bet.

In this instance, she walked away with your tip money and you got to keep your bet. Yay! Dont tip.
 
#8
I think the posters in this thread missed what the OP implied: that the dealer gave him even money on his blackjack even after she flipped over the ten in the hole. If my understanding of his post is correct, this is a very risky action on the dealer's part.
 

mdlbj

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#9
Dyepaintball12 said:
Dealers work hard. Tipping a little now and then is not the worst thing in the world.
Dealers turn cards over and add them up and do payouts. At the same time, help the casino that they are employed at, try to take your money using a built in advantage.
 
#10
mdlbj said:
Dealers turn cards over and add them up and do payouts. At the same time, help the casino that they are employed at, try to take your money using a built in advantage.
I strongly disagree. Stating that dealers "turn cards over and add them up and do payouts" implies that their job is basic and easy. While dealing blackjack isn't the most difficult job in the world, dealers are often subjected to abusive customers, large quantities of secondhand smoke, rude and incompetent bosses, and an expectation to maintain a very high level of speed and accuracy. And to say that they "try" to take your money is ridiculous. I've rarely encountered a dealer who enjoyed watching people lose. At the same time, many of them don't seem to care either way, but it's not like they took the job to take your money. Dealers are just trying to earn a living, and at many places, without your tips, they'd be making minimum wage at best. Tip the dealer. Yes, it's -EV, but tipping a waiter is -EV as well.
 

shadroch

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#12
A decent amount. You both are working for a living.If you aren't making enough to be able to kick back 10% or so of your winnings,you are wasting your time to begin with. IMHO. Think of it as you being the waiter and the dealer being the bus boy.You can't do your job without him,but he is easily replaced.
Someone I met on my last Vegas trip recommends tipping one half of your winnings off of dealers mistakes.I've been tossing that one around.
 

rdorange

Well-Known Member
#13
New way to tip

I recently saw someone doing something very interesting for tipping. I have started doing the same. The casino sends me comp coupons for comp chips and money plays. When I get these chips, I use them for the tipping. The dealers seem to love it. If you have a $5 chip, put it on the line for the dealer, not from your pocket or your wins. On the Bj table it is great because you can spread to two or three spots to eat up extra cards in a low count and nobody knows any different, sorta like killing two birds with one stone. On the craps table its really great, if you have a bunch of $5 chips, just put the dealers all the way across.
 
#14
comparing a dealer to a waiter is not the same, because a waiter can vary the amount and quality of the service, whereas a dealer has to do the same exact job no matter what, and if you want to talk about how if your not tipping at all he is more likely to report you for counting, then fine, but im not talking about stuff like that..

besides, look at it like this, you are GAMBLING and 99% are LOSING.. why the hell would somebody who is losing money want to give more away? the people that tip the most are most likely the people who really have no idea what they are doing, and just keep slapping bills down left and right without knowing their disadvantage, their rate of loss, or perhaps even how much money they have put down on the table..

i am highly against tipping, but it is from a math standpoint.. at the same time, i would never stiff a waiter or bartender, in which case i tip 20-30%, which i think is crazy, but its just how it goes if you dont want to look like a total asshole.. in some countries they dont tip anywhere, which i think is better.. and hey, when im playing vp, i get up and go get my own ****, i never let the waitress get it for me, and if i could deal myself the cards, i would! this one dealer at this casino i dont play at anymore would be all like "can ya give one to the dealer? im just trying to feed my family".. **** him, acting like he lives in a damn box.. if the job is so horrible go work somewhere else
 
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