"Casual" pair/team play

#1
I'm off to Vegas with my gal in a week, and while we're quite content to play individually, I'm wondering if anyone has good ideas for team play for a guy/gal couple. We're not serious/high stakes players, but we do like to win in smart ways.

She can count and play BS fairly well, but not perfectly, so I'm not sure I'd trust her with "big player" (and my $), though there's some chance she can spot for me. Having a woman as BP and me spotting might get some pit attention as well.

The simplest thing is probably just to hang out with her while she plays, and wong in appropriately, maybe switch places during high counts. Just wondering if anyone had other ideas.
 

callipygian

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#2
I believe someone (Sonny?) once posted that Wong-hopping, basically, two people leaving the table at staggered times and then Wonging in to the other person's table (which they've already Wonged into), can increase the win rate dramatically by lowering the time it takes in between Wonging out and Wonging in.

I've never done it myself, but it sounds ideal for a two-player team with separate bankrolls.
 

TheApprentice

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#4
cell phones for wonging?

21forme said:
My partner and I do it all the time. If we're not within view of each other, cell phones work wonders.
couldn't the casino pin illegal use of an electronic device on the player if caught using a cell phone in this way?
 
#5
I've imagined texting to be a bit more reliable and discreet, though it might look like you're using a calculator so I wouldn't try it while sitting at a table
 

21forme

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#6
TheApprentice said:
couldn't the casino pin illegal use of an electronic device on the player if caught using a cell phone in this way?
That would be a real stretch. Anyway, they always make you get up from the table when using a cell phone, so you're following their rules.
 

mjbballar23

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#7
What i have found works well is have each of you play separately and if you happen to be wonging out or taking a break, look for your partner's table first to see if the count is good there. If it is, jump in! If its not worth jumping in, just move on to another table.

IMO two person teams are the best way to play. It allows you to be very flexible in the way you play and its easier to get creative. Having a female partner opens up even more doors.
 

SD Padres

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#9
joe42 said:
I'm off to Vegas with my gal in a week, and while we're quite content to play individually, I'm wondering if anyone has good ideas for team play for a guy/gal couple. We're not serious/high stakes players, but we do like to win in smart ways.

She can count and play BS fairly well, but not perfectly, so I'm not sure I'd trust her with "big player" (and my $), though there's some chance she can spot for me. Having a woman as BP and me spotting might get some pit attention as well.

The simplest thing is probably just to hang out with her while she plays, and wong in appropriately, maybe switch places during high counts. Just wondering if anyone had other ideas.
I stand behind my wife while she plays and if the count gets high I'll cap her bet. I think if you do this occasionally it doesn't draw too much heat and you can get some big bets on the table.
 

rukus

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#10
joe42 said:
The simplest thing is probably just to hang out with her while she plays, and wong in appropriately, maybe switch places during high counts.
this is what i usually recommend for a boy/girl pair where the girl isnt 100% proficient. you guys can also just stand around semi-empty tables talking while you backcount so it does not look like you you are just staring at cards.
 

Doofus

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#11
rukus said:
this is what i usually recommend for a boy/girl pair where the girl isnt 100% proficient. you guys can also just stand around semi-empty tables talking while you backcount so it does not look like you you are just staring at cards.
You want some honest advice? Here goes -

If she doesn't know how to count cards, have her wear a low cut dress that leaves little to the imagination, have her flirt shamelessly with the dealer and pit crew, have her bet a constant table minimum, and have her sit at third base. Also have her ask the PB for advice on every questionable hand while flirting with him. You sit immediately to her right, act like you don't know her, and spread with impunity. Nobody will pay the slightest attention to your card counting, I assure you!
 
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