The ploppy rules of Surrender

21forme

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#1
I was playing where this ploppy seemed to play about 90% correct BS. He was also jumping between 1 and 3 hands.

One hand, he had a 16 v 9 and hit it. Next hand, he had two hands of 15 v 10 and surrendered both.

So, I asked him, "If you don't mind me asking, why did you surrender the 15s this hand but not the 16 last hand?"

He said,"You're not supposed to surrender if there are an even number of hands on the table."

That was a new one on me!
 
#2
21forme said:
I was playing where this ploppy seemed to play about 90% correct BS. He was also jumping between 1 and 3 hands.

One hand, he had a 16 v 9 and hit it. Next hand, he had two hands of 15 v 10 and surrendered both.

So, I asked him, "If you don't mind me asking, why did you surrender the 15s this hand but not the 16 last hand?"

He said,"You're not supposed to surrender if there are an even number of hands on the table."

That was a new one on me!
They're both very close plays- he could have been using a different count.
 
#6
shadroch said:
But thats when the most Aces are left to be dealt.
Sounds like effective cover to me. He didn't say how many decks were being used. In pitch games the 3 hands can get you deeper into the deck before you decide how to bet your next hand. With the lower variance he can change his bet and/or number of hands depending on advantage and the need to eat or preserve cards. If it makes you look so much like a ploppy that even a counter brands you that way while you are totally controlling the flow of the cards all the better.
 

21gunsalute

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#8
21forme said:
I was playing where this ploppy seemed to play about 90% correct BS. He was also jumping between 1 and 3 hands.

One hand, he had a 16 v 9 and hit it. Next hand, he had two hands of 15 v 10 and surrendered both.

So, I asked him, "If you don't mind me asking, why did you surrender the 15s this hand but not the 16 last hand?"

He said,"You're not supposed to surrender if there are an even number of hands on the table."

That was a new one on me!
The decision to not surrender based on an even number of hands is odd.
 
#9
I've been told by ploppies that surrendering is for wussies, except he didn't use the word wussies, but rhymes with it. He then got up in a huff and puff that same session after i surrendered 16 v T and he had a 12 and busted to 22 and the dealer turns up a 15 and hits a 9 to bust.
 
#10
markmcdonald said:
I've been told by ploppies that surrendering is for wussies, except he didn't use the word wussies, but rhymes with it. He then got up in a huff and puff that same session after i surrendered 16 v T and he had a 12 and busted to 22 and the dealer turns up a 15 and hits a 9 to bust.
I get the I came to win not give up line. What did he want you to do bust your hand so he could get the nine? The cards were just as likely to be in the other order. I like to say I knew the next card was a ten to bust the dealer. Why did you mess up the flow of the cards by hitting. This is a team game after all, it doesn't matter what your strategy card says, just let the dealer bust. That always gets them were they live.
 

aslan

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#11
tthree said:
I get the I came to win not give up line. What did he want you to do bust your hand so he could get the nine? The cards were just as likely to be in the other order. I like to say I knew the next card was a ten to bust the dealer. Why did you mess up the flow of the cards by hitting. This is a team game after all, it doesn't matter what your strategy card says, just let the dealer bust. That always gets them were they live.
Unless the dealer turns up another ten; then it's moot. :rolleyes: I like it when I hit a hard 12 against a dealer 3, and I get the 8, and the dealer gets the ten. Then I say, "Whoo! That was close. Good thing I hit my 12 or the dealer would have gotten the 8 for 21." When the opposite occurs, it's, "If I knew what the next card was, I wouldn't be sitting here; I'd be a multi-millionaire!" :p
 

aslan

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#14
alwayssplitaces said:
I like when ploppies say that blackjack is a team game.

Unless I put the team together, it is not a team game.
I like it when they start rallying the troops, getting everyone into the positive flow, trying to make the team perk up with a "root, root, root for the home team" kind of cheer leading. And, of course, when the table wins a hand, it's, "See, what'd I tell you. Keep it up. Let's turn this table around!"

Gee, I before now didn't understand the alchemy involved that allows pure faith and positive thinking to change the number of pips on a card. Scientific researchers take note! Miraculous things are happening right under our collective nose in every casino across the land! We may not yet have the knack of changing water into wine, but we do have the power to change sixes into aces. Today the casino, tomorrow the world!

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