A. C. Casino Revenue for Sept.

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
#1
Overall, revenue continues its long slow slide.

N.J. threatening to revoke ACH's license to operate !

A few oddities found from the Sept. numbers:

ACH:

Table game revenues were the lowest at 2.2 million and 9.9 million in slots.

On something called "Flop Poker" they lost -$8,226 on $35,390 for a loss of [23.2%]

Ballys:

Craps "hold" was low at 8.2%
Baccarat Ballys lost $2,191 on 465,864 [-0.5%]

Caesars:

MiniBacc -$212,645 [-4.7%]

Harrahs:

Craps "hold" was very low at 0.9% (on a drop of $9,727,482)

Tropicana:

Craps "hold" 9.858 million on a drop of $9,226,373 [107%] IMPOSSIBLE !

Minibaccarat: The Trop' lost $3,835,649 on $12,885,338 -29.8%

$25 slots -$37,004 [-3.8%]

Golden Nugget:

Revenues the lowest in A.C. with 2.1 million in table games and +8.6 million in slots.

Mini Baccarat They lost 12K

Trump Plaza:

Barely edges out the Golden Nugget with 2.4 million in table games and 8.6 million in slots.

$100 slots (2 machines) -$32.500 on $45,800 [-71.00%]

Taj Mahal:

Craps LOST $456,204 on 7,087,861 [-6.4%]
 

Jacob

Well-Known Member
#4
sabre said:
4 casinos lost money on baccarat for the month?!?!?!

stopgambling said:
w t h? lost $$$ on baccarat?!!! 4 casino???
Here is my take for the losses: An AP has published a Gospel of baccarat which has helped more winners. For examples, (1) bet on Dragon ( 40 to 1 payout) when excess 7s and tens are in the shoe. (2) bet on player when you "see" or if excess 8s or 9s are "about" to hit the player.

In response to the Gospel, a Casino has dropped its bet limits as follows:

1) A max bet for Dragon was dropped from $200 to $25,

2) and a max bet for banker or player was dropped from $10,000 to $3,000.

Also, a Casino cut off 104 cards instead of 25 to stop the "bleedings"

The casinos may have to half-shoe some APs ( i.e., half shoeing super-AP-"D*v*") in the game of baccarat as if it were the game of bj :grin:.
 

melbedewy

Well-Known Member
#5
Jacob said:
Here is my take for the losses: An AP has published a Gospel of baccarat which has helped more winners. For examples, (1) bet on Dragon ( 40 to 1 payout) when excess 7s and tens are in the shoe. (2) bet on player when you "see" or if excess 8s or 9s are "about" to hit the player.

In response to the Gospel, a Casino has dropped its bet limits as follows:

1) A max bet for Dragon was dropped from $200 to $25,

2) and a max bet for banker or player was dropped from $10,000 to $3,000.

Also, a Casino cut off 104 cards instead of 25 to stop the "bleedings"

The casinos may have to half-shoe some APs ( i.e., half shoeing super-AP-"D*v*") in the game of baccarat as if it were the game of bj :grin:.
What is this Dragon Bet?
I thought baccarat had 3 bets-banker, player and tie.
 

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
#6
Jacob,

NO. There is no "Dragon Side Bets" in Atlantic City,

at least not to the best of my knowledge, although I have

not looked at a Mini-Baccarat table in many years.

Cheating is unlikely as the losses are from Mini-Baccarat

where the players cannot touch the cards.
 
#7
FLASH1296 said:
Jacob,

NO. There is no "Dragon Side Bets" in Atlantic City,

at least not to the best of my knowledge, although I have

not looked at a Mini-Baccarat table in many years.

Cheating is unlikely as the losses are from Mini-Baccarat

where the players cannot touch the cards.
Caesar's has had it for almost a year. You can find it at EZ Bac.
 

Jacob

Well-Known Member
#8
melbedewy said:
What is this Dragon Bet?
I thought baccarat had 3 bets-banker, player and tie.
Per Google: Dragon bet is:

"a three card total of seven.



The appearance of this hand is the “Dragon”. Customers can make an insurance bet – the Dragon7© bet – that pays 40 to 1 when the three card winning Bank hand occurs."


Examples are:

(Banker's hands)

10 10 7

10 1 6

10 2 5

10 3 4, etc...
 
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