cards Y following card X

blackriver

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#1
I remember seeing a chart somewhere that showed the likelyhood of some card following another card. like tens and fives likely followed eachothe cause they rarely split and 8s and As followin eachother less because of splitting. was there a name for this? where is that chart?
 

bjcount

Well-Known Member
#2
blackriver said:
I remember seeing a chart somewhere that showed the likelyhood of some card following another card. like tens and fives likely followed eachothe cause they rarely split and 8s and As followin eachother less because of splitting. was there a name for this? where is that chart?
Since the cards are random in a shuffled deck and change position in the next shuffled deck how can there be any "pattern" chart like your describing....but I'm not a math expert,.... and someone will find a way to do it.... and I'm sure if you could follow the depleted card ...sounds like too much work....are you refering to, but with the incorrect understanding, ev charts?

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/ev/ev.htm (Archive copy)

BJC
 
#5
Any affect that be observed is so minimal I wouldnt worry about it. Ten value cards do seem to be about 4 times more likely to follow each other though. Do you understand why?
 

Gamblor

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#6
Hey blackriver, I haven't come across this chart (on this site?), but if anyone finds it, I too would be curious to look at it myself.
 

blackriver

Well-Known Member
#8
tthree said:
Any affect that be observed is so minimal I wouldnt worry about it. Ten value cards do seem to be about 4 times more likely to follow each other though. Do you understand why?
every post of yours is so solid
 
#9
blackriver said:
was there a name for this?
"Sympathetic card cohesion" (or SC2), and it applies to 10s, 4s, 5s, and 9s mostly.
Best kept secret, even ExCAA doesn't dare write about it. Arnold will soon spill the beans in his upcoming Radical BJ.
I hear that The Syph has been cleaning up with it in Yakuza-run private clubs in Yokohama. zg

Ps - This is all that Sonny uses now.
 

Ferretnparrot

Well-Known Member
#10
This is the most amazing concept I have ever heard of.

A logical reasoning that the cards will stray from random.

What the hell can you do with knowledge of the slightly altered possibilities?

You would have to simulate it on a computer that simulates a hand shuffle
 

Sucker

Well-Known Member
#11
zengrifter said:
"Sympathetic card cohesion" (or SC2), and it applies to 10s, 4s, 5s, and 9s mostly.
Best kept secret, even ExCAA doesn't dare write about it. Arnold will soon spill the beans in his upcoming Radical BJ.
I hear that The Syph has been cleaning up with it in Yakuza-run private clubs in Yokohama. zg

Ps - This is all that Sonny uses now.
Not exactly a secret. There have been numerous books and articles published about this hogwash. I have in my library one of these books; published in the 1970's. As for ExCAA; he obviously won't write about it because he does not wish to damage his credibility.

Probably not a good idea for you; someone who's opinion is very valued by the forum members, to pull our legs about this. As we all know, there are casino spies who read these threads. Coming from YOU, they might actually BELIEVE this. Casinos are very paranoid. Some of them might even go so far as to put a few more riffles in their shuffles. This is bad for them because it will make for reduced profit for them. When a casino's revenue drops, this causes them to become even more sweaty than they already are, and to take even MORE countermeasures. This is bad for US.

BTW: SC2 happens to be the name of a popular video game - StarCraftII. :laugh:
 

Gamblor

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#12
Sucker said:
Not exactly a secret. There have been numerous books and articles published about this hogwash. I have in my library one of these books; published in the 1970's. As for ExCAA; he obviously won't write about it because he does not wish to damage his credibility.

Probably not a good idea for you; someone who's opinion is very valued by the forum members, to pull our legs about this. As we all know, there are casino spies who read these threads. Coming from YOU, they might actually BELIEVE this. Casinos are very paranoid. Some of them might even go so far as to put a few more riffles in their shuffles. This is bad for them because it will make for reduced profit for them. When a casino's revenue drops, this causes them to become even more sweaty than they already are, and to take even MORE countermeasures. This is bad for US.

BTW: SC2 happens to be the name of a popular video game - StarCraftII. :laugh:
This magical technique (principle) could be more effective against machine shuffles like CSMs, with its more precise and uniform shuffle.

Just throwing that out there for our unwelcomed guests to mull over. "Well boys, Gambor thinks SC2 might work especially well against CSMs, time to throw them out."
 
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