Blackjack in Belgium

Scoup

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#1
Most casinos in Belgium (I think all of them except Brussels) use this set of rules:

-6 decks
-surrender allowed except on aces
-dealer stands on S17
-double after split
-split twice max (even aces)
-if you double on soft totals the ace is 1
-if you split aces you can hit again but the ace is 11
-if you beat the dealer with a 5 cards hand you're paid 1.5 to 1
6 2 to 1
7 5 to 1

Casino de Spa : No CSM, 5€-250€
Casino de Chaudfontaine : they just switched to CSM same limits
Casino de Namur : CSM on the 5€-250€ table but no CSM on the 10€-250€ table.

PS: I'll update as soon as I visit other places
 
#2
hmm CSM's, It seems they're all over the place now in Belgium and the Netherlands and I just wanted to start my ccc at the beach casino's in West-Belgium, because I thought the rules as described above were quite good for European casinos (no hole card). But if all Belgian casinos have the same owner...I'd rather play for beer at my friend's fraternity (which is a good excercise for the real thing: loud music, drunkness, screaming students, distracting girls ;) .

gr, J. Fortune.
 
#3
It's all CSM and most don't have these bonuses anymore.
And the tables are always full with ploppies hitting 16 vs 3 and all that :cry:
 
#7
Namur casino non csm is with pen of 55%, at best 60.
No 567 cards bonus, unfriendly atmosphere......yuk.
France with worst rules but better pen is far better but not very friendly either.
Germany and Holland all csm, BJ are dying slowly(not so slowly now) in Western Europe.
UK too is getting more and more csm and very bad rules and yes,even heat with the worst rules in Europe.
 
#8
Penetration :
Chaudfontaine : 75 to 85% when the CSMs are out of order (seems to happen a lot lately)
Spa : 55 to 75%
Namur : 55 to 67%

Another thing there's no heat, they just don't seem to care. I use a 1-40 spread.
 
#9
Correction

I can not comment on Chaudfontaine but I don't agree on the lack of heat.
First in Spa, you mentionned 55 to 75 % pen, it is correct BUT didn't you notice that the 75% is for the ploppies and the 55 for the rare skilled player.......that is HEAT.
In Namur, bad pen no matter who is playing.
And if you insist on going too often you get barred all over Belgium....no heat??
 
#10
poker said:
And if you insist on going too often you get barred all over Belgium....no heat??
In Spa, I know a guy who played for 2 straight months (he makes a 2 months trip in Spa every year) every single day, he had a 1-150 spread (5€ on one hand - 250€ on 3 hands). I almost could hear him counting and he sometimes asked the dealer how much decks he thinks are already dealt. He's well known there and they don't seem to care.

Do you know someone who got barred from Spa?

Concerning the penetration in Spa, it depends more on the dealer as often. But I know they're briefed to cut 45% off. Usually the bosses are the worst, I just avoid them.
 
#11
Barrings

Yes, i know 2 players barred from Spa, you are right about bosses being the worst and yes they have instructions to cut nearly half( against me).
When i play its always only 55% dealt no matter who the dealer is; yet i am hardly above even but onve got a good run and since then its instruction to cut nearly half.
I am surprised of that player getting away with what you described, he was maybe counting BUT was he good at it, was he winning?
 
#13
How long ago was that?
It seems surprising that i get detected after a good run and that player gets away with such a spread, i was spreading 1 12 and yet got on to me.
Never underestimate the stupidity of casinos is probably the answer.:confused:
 
#15
What can i say,maybe they decided i was a threat which is ridiculous because my increase was nowhere near 5 750, some of these casinos have no ideas, i know players being barred for winning not even knowing BS.
Belgium used to be a good place, not anymore despite of their decent rules.
Spa have got the SLOWEST dealers in the whole world too.:p
 
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