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Old July 2nd, 2008, 02:38 PM
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I am only familiar with Kiss III... which system if any is better for 6 deck shoe games...
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 03:29 PM
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Red 7?
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 07:40 PM
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They are all close - KISS-3 is the best of genre, for my money...
BUT there is a little confusion surrounding the betting spread recommendation as currently published. zg
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 03:23 PM
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The KO system is very popular, well documented and supported by most software programs. Red 7 is good too but counting certain 7s and ignoring others seems unnecessarily complicated to me.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 08:25 PM
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Check out KO.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 08:46 PM
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Red 7 is good too but counting certain 7s and ignoring others seems unnecessarily complicated to me.
The potential advantage of Red 7 and KISS III is that the pivot is +2 rather than +4. Basically, you want to put the pivot closest to your most important decisions, as unbalanced counts are most accurate near the pivot. If you Wong in and Wong out with a small bet spread, +2 (where your EV goes from negative to positive) is more important. If you're playing nMSE and taking insurance at high counts, +4 is more important.

Ultimately, the difference between the two is small compared to counting correctly; if System A is too complicated to keep track of, you'll lose more on miscounting than you will gain from the advantage of moving to non-ideal System B.
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