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July 3rd, 2008, 06:03 AM
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Is counting with this rules even possible?
Hello!
At my local casino they have the following blackjack rules:
- 6 decks are used (no shuffle machines ofc)
- when splitting aces, you just get one card to each ace. you cant take any more cards. if you get a picture to your ace, it just counts as 21, not blackjack.
- you can only double up, if you have a 9, 10 or 11 (this is the rule i am concerned about most)
I would like to know if those rules make it impossible to play profitable even with a good count.
Thanks in advance!
Bernhard
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July 3rd, 2008, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by HamburgCouter
Hello!
At my local casino they have the following blackjack rules:
- 6 decks are used (no shuffle machines ofc)
- when splitting aces, you just get one card to each ace. you cant take any more cards. if you get a picture to your ace, it just counts as 21, not blackjack.
- you can only double up, if you have a 9, 10 or 11 (this is the rule i am concerned about most)
I would like to know if those rules make it impossible to play profitable even with a good count.
Thanks in advance!
Bernhard
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Hi and welcome:
Please also list, H17 or S17 and penetration level(how far they deal befor shuffling)
Can you double 9,10,11 on a split?
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July 3rd, 2008, 06:13 AM
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What is H17 and S17?
They cut about a third of the deck away. In the start there are 2 burn cards.
You can double 9, 10 and 11 also on a split.
Bernhard
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July 3rd, 2008, 06:26 AM
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ah yeah and the dealer stands on every 17 (also on soft 17)
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July 3rd, 2008, 07:39 AM
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Hmm, is this Spielbank Hamburg? Which is to say, is it no hole card?
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July 3rd, 2008, 09:00 AM
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If the deck is cut 2 packs in I would hunt around for a better game to be honest, you would have to use a massive bet spread to get any decent advantage out of that.
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July 3rd, 2008, 09:31 AM
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You can do a midshoe entry into those games.
I would more like to know, if its still possible to gain advantage and what my count has to be, to get what advantage. Does someone has a program ready to simulate that with my given data?
Thanks in advance!
QFit: Yeah its Spielbank Hamburg and no its no hole card, they changed that^^
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July 3rd, 2008, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HamburgCouter
What is H17 and S17?
They cut about a third of the deck away. In the start there are 2 burn cards.
You can double 9, 10 and 11 also on a split.
Bernhard
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It means if the dealer Hits or Stands on a soft 17. It's the best if he stands  .
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July 3rd, 2008, 10:11 AM
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The rules are identical to the old style UK rules which is a house edge of -0.55% so i wouldnt raise your bet until the true count is +2. Reason for this being that at TC +1 the house will still have a slight edge unless you can find better rules like double down on any first two cards.
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July 3rd, 2008, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Twentyone
The rules are identical to the old style UK rules which is a house edge of -0.55% .
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If the house edge is -0.55% this means the advantage is to you
If the house edge is 0.55% then the advantage is to the house
I think you meant the second
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