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Old July 7th, 2008, 02:58 PM
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Depleted Uranium Situation Worsens
- Dr. Doug Rokke, PhD.

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Dr. Doug Rokke, PhD. Dlind49@aol.com wrote:

Depleted Uranium Situation Worsens Requiring Immediate Action
By President Bush, Prime Minister Brown, and Prime Minister Olmert

Dr. Doug Rokke, PhD. Dlind49@aol.com
former Director, U.S. Army Depleted Uranium project
June 11, 2008

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Default here is a scientific study on DU in Iraq

http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/ne...d-uranium.html

http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/ne...snl-dusand.pdf

7.4 DU-Exposed Iraqi Civilians
• The radiological risk is extremely small for civilians located downwind from DU
munitions use. Thus, DU is predicted to have no detectable health effects (including
cancers, leukemia, and birth defects) on downwind civilians.
• Monitoring of DU in the environment suggests that DU contamination of food and
water supplies has not been significant to date. Furthermore, widespread DU
contamination in the distant future is unlikely.
• The most significant risk for Iraqi civilians may be for children playing in or near
DU-damaged vehicles. The nominal risk of lung cancer for these children is about
0.04%, and the nominal risk of colon cancer is 0.06%. The risk of leukemia and other
cancers is insignificant.
• The beta particle emission rate for DU is too low to present a risk of skin burns from
direct contact with DU metal. However, a DU fragment in close contact with the skin
at the same location for many years (e.g., worn as jewelry) could result in a local skin
cancer risk from beta irradiation.
• Gamma radiation from nearby unburied shells, fragments, or particulate is too weak
to present a significant radiological risk.
• No adverse kidney effects are predicted for Iraqi civilians exposed to DU.
• To reduce civilian risks to negligible levels, children should be discouraged from
playing in or near battle-damaged vehicles.
• To assure that long-term contamination of the environment has not resulted from DU
munitions use, continued monitoring of the post-battle zone environment and nearby
civilians is suggested.
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http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/ne...d-uranium.html

http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/ne...snl-dusand.pdf

7.4 DU-Exposed Iraqi Civilians
• The radiological risk is extremely small for civilians located downwind from DU
munitions use. Thus, DU is predicted to have no detectable health effects (including
cancers, leukemia, and birth defects) on downwind civilians.
• Monitoring of DU in the environment suggests that DU contamination of food and
water supplies has not been significant to date. Furthermore, widespread DU
contamination in the distant future is unlikely.
• The most significant risk for Iraqi civilians may be for children playing in or near
DU-damaged vehicles. The nominal risk of lung cancer for these children is about
0.04%, and the nominal risk of colon cancer is 0.06%. The risk of leukemia and other
cancers is insignificant.
• The beta particle emission rate for DU is too low to present a risk of skin burns from
direct contact with DU metal. However, a DU fragment in close contact with the skin
at the same location for many years (e.g., worn as jewelry) could result in a local skin
cancer risk from beta irradiation.
• Gamma radiation from nearby unburied shells, fragments, or particulate is too weak
to present a significant radiological risk.
• No adverse kidney effects are predicted for Iraqi civilians exposed to DU.
• To reduce civilian risks to negligible levels, children should be discouraged from
playing in or near battle-damaged vehicles.
• To assure that long-term contamination of the environment has not resulted from DU
munitions use, continued monitoring of the post-battle zone environment and nearby
civilians is suggested.
Good catch, Mr. Fr0g.
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On the other hand, here is Dr. Rokke's distinction -
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Depleted Uranium Situation Worsens

Dr. Doug Rokke, PhD. Dlind49@aol.com
former Director, U.S. Army Depleted Uranium project
June 11, 2008

HERE- http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussi...614;title=APFN
QUOTE FROM DR. ROKKE-

I am amazed that fifteen years after was I asked to clean up
the initial DU mess from Gulf War 1 and over ten years
since I finished the depleted uranium project that United
States Department of Defense officials and others still
attempt to justify uranium munitions use while ignoring
mandatory requirements.
I am dismayed that Department of
Defense and Department of Energy officials and
representatives continue personal attacks aimed to silence
or discredit those of us who are demanding that medical care
be provided to all DU casualties and that environmental
remediation is completed in compliance with U.S. Army
Regulation 700-48.


But beyond the ignored mandatory actions
the willful dispersal of tons of solid radioactive and
chemically toxic waste in the form of uranium munitions is
illegal (
http://www.traprockpeace.org/karen_parker_du_illegality.pdf
) and just does not even pass the common sense test and
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, DHS,
is a dirty bomb. DHS issued "dirty bomb" response
guidelines,

http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html

, on January 3, 2006 for incidents within the United States
but ignore DOD use of uranium weapons and existing DOD
regulations. These guidelines specifically state that:
"Characteristics of RDD and IND Incidents: A radiological
incident is defined as an event or series of events,
deliberate or accidental, leading to the release, or
potential release, into the environment of radioactive
material in sufficient quantity to warrant consideration of
protective actions. Use of an RDD or IND is an act of
terror that produces a radiological incident." Thus the use
of uranium munitions is "an act or terror" as defined by
DHS. Finally continued compliance with the infamous March
1991 Los Alamos Memorandum that was issued to ensure
continued use of uranium munitions can not be justified.
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On the other hand, here is Dr. Rokke's distinction -


QUOTE FROM DR. ROKKE-

I am amazed that fifteen years after was I asked to clean up
the initial DU mess from Gulf War 1 and over ten years
since I finished the depleted uranium project that United
States Department of Defense officials and others still
attempt to justify uranium munitions use while ignoring
mandatory requirements.
I am dismayed that Department of
Defense and Department of Energy officials and
representatives continue personal attacks aimed to silence
or discredit those of us who are demanding that medical care
be provided to all DU casualties and that environmental
remediation is completed in compliance with U.S. Army
Regulation 700-48.


But beyond the ignored mandatory actions
the willful dispersal of tons of solid radioactive and
chemically toxic waste in the form of uranium munitions is
illegal (
http://www.traprockpeace.org/karen_parker_du_illegality.pdf
) and just does not even pass the common sense test and
according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, DHS,
is a dirty bomb. DHS issued "dirty bomb" response
guidelines,

http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html

, on January 3, 2006 for incidents within the United States
but ignore DOD use of uranium weapons and existing DOD
regulations. These guidelines specifically state that:
"Characteristics of RDD and IND Incidents: A radiological
incident is defined as an event or series of events,
deliberate or accidental, leading to the release, or
potential release, into the environment of radioactive
material in sufficient quantity to warrant consideration of
protective actions. Use of an RDD or IND is an act of
terror that produces a radiological incident." Thus the use
of uranium munitions is "an act or terror" as defined by
DHS. Finally continued compliance with the infamous March
1991 Los Alamos Memorandum that was issued to ensure
continued use of uranium munitions can not be justified.
In my experience, you see a wolf in every dog.
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In my experience, you see a wolf in every dog.
There IS IS a wolf in EVERY dog (and a panther in every cat).

Dr. Rokke is a distinguished expert in DU. Not some government-owned laboratory instructed
to help white wash an enviromental calamity. zg
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Depleted Uranium, Diabetes, Cancer, and YOU (Aslan)

By Alan Cantwell, MD

Recently I received an intriguing email claiming that the rapidly increasing worldwide epidemic of diabetes was caused by depleted uranium (DU). As a medical doctor I never heard of such an idea. Every physician knows that radiation can lead to cancer, but the DU and diabetes connection seemed ludicrous. Nevertheless, I thought it would be interesting to check it out on the Internet.

The best tool for medical research on the Net is the PubMed website sponsored by the US National Library of Medicine. I typed in the keywords: depleted uranium and diabetes. No citations to scientific papers in the medical journals appeared on my computer screen, which further assured me there was no scientific connection. Even when I used key words – depleted uranium and human disease – only a mere 16 papers were cited on the subject from 1994 to 2005; and only half these papers addressed the medical problems of soldiers exposed to DU in the Gulf War.

What was revealed is that DU accumulates in lymph nodes, brain, testicles, and other organs, and the short term and long term effects of DU were not known. There was a definite increase of birth defects in the offspring of persons exposed to DU; and Gulf War vets who inhaled DU were still excreting abnormal amounts of uranium in the urine 10 years later.

Why was there so little written about DU and its effects on the human body? Having written extensively on the man-made epidemic of AIDS and its cover-up for two decades, I was not surprised. I strongly suspected research into the health effects of DU on Gulf War veterans was “politically incorrect.” On the other hand, a quick Google Internet search of – “side effects” + “depleted uranium” – referred me to 71,000 English pages on the web. When I added the key word “diabetes” there were 22,000 pages.

I also discovered that articles about the health dangers of DU rarely, if ever, appear in the major media. In a January 2001 press release FAIR (Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting) accused the media of “depleted coverage of depleted uranium weapons.” Nevertheless, a great deal of information on DU can be found on the Internet.

MORE- http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Artic...r_And_You.html
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There IS IS a wolf in EVERY dog (and a panther in every cat).

Dr. Rokke is a distinguished expert in DU. Not some government-owned laboratory instructed
to help white wash an enviromental calamity. zg
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Depleted Uranium, Diabetes, Cancer, and YOU (Aslan)

By Alan Cantwell, MD

Recently I received an intriguing email claiming that the rapidly increasing worldwide epidemic of diabetes was caused by depleted uranium (DU). As a medical doctor I never heard of such an idea. Every physician knows that radiation can lead to cancer, but the DU and diabetes connection seemed ludicrous. Nevertheless, I thought it would be interesting to check it out on the Internet.

The best tool for medical research on the Net is the PubMed website sponsored by the US National Library of Medicine. I typed in the keywords: depleted uranium and diabetes. No citations to scientific papers in the medical journals appeared on my computer screen, which further assured me there was no scientific connection. Even when I used key words – depleted uranium and human disease – only a mere 16 papers were cited on the subject from 1994 to 2005; and only half these papers addressed the medical problems of soldiers exposed to DU in the Gulf War.

What was revealed is that DU accumulates in lymph nodes, brain, testicles, and other organs, and the short term and long term effects of DU were not known. There was a definite increase of birth defects in the offspring of persons exposed to DU; and Gulf War vets who inhaled DU were still excreting abnormal amounts of uranium in the urine 10 years later.

Why was there so little written about DU and its effects on the human body? Having written extensively on the man-made epidemic of AIDS and its cover-up for two decades, I was not surprised. I strongly suspected research into the health effects of DU on Gulf War veterans was “politically incorrect.” On the other hand, a quick Google Internet search of – “side effects” + “depleted uranium” – referred me to 71,000 English pages on the web. When I added the key word “diabetes” there were 22,000 pages.

I also discovered that articles about the health dangers of DU rarely, if ever, appear in the major media. In a January 2001 press release FAIR (Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting) accused the media of “depleted coverage of depleted uranium weapons.” Nevertheless, a great deal of information on DU can be found on the Internet.

MORE- http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Artic...r_And_You.html
I havem't been exposed to DU. I don't have diabetes. The dearth of information is likely due to the lack of evidence or lack of frequency of situations supporting a link between diabetes and DU, not the political correctness of such research.
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