Iran Tests Missiles Two Days in a Row

[aslan]

How do you interpret the timing of Iran's missile testing? One article reports that one of the missiles could be used to put a satellite into orbit, which I found interesting. Western media all focus on the threat of Iran to Israel and US Forces in the ME. Also, one guest on Fox (I think it was Fox), suggested that Iran could put a missile on a tramp steamer traveling up our coast--talk about trying to plant a seed of fear. Is this the run up to an attack on Iran probably before the November election?


http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8704200561
http://www.iran-daily.com/1387/3171/html/
http://www2.irna.ir/en/
http://www.mehrnews.com/en/
http://isna.ir/isna/NewsView.aspx?ID...1161557&Lang=E

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryP...5bc-4385-a8f6-
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/world/mhgbsnauauey/
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news.php?id=57247
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3647
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/I...ow/3213136.cms
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2...ent_723751.htm
http://arabnews.com/?page=4&section=...egory=World%22

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/126779
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1000454.html
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1148287850178

http://krehbiel.blogspot.com/2008/02...t-missile.html
http://ukpress.google.com/article/AL...IQb7KGlLPw0ugQ
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,190219,00.htm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080710/...an_missiles_27
http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/reports/shehab.htm
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...Test-Missiles-
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/09/asia/10iran.php
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=92357261
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/wo...ia/10iran.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_111582.html
http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.ph...k=view&id=6531

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by aslan

How do you interpret the timing of Iran's missile testing? One article reports that one of the missiles could be used to put a satellite into orbit, which I found interesting. Western media all focus on the threat of Iran to Israel and US Forces in the ME. Also, one guest on Fox (I think it was Fox), suggested that Iran could put a missile on a tramp steamer traveling up our coast--talk about trying to plant a seed of fear. Is this the run up to an attack on Iran probably before the November election?
...

haven't check all those links. my first thought was well that Iran is doing some posturing. sort of like how male animal species when they are squaring off against one another sometimes in preparation for a real fight sometimes not.
also it reminded me of how North Korea shot off a missile or two not to long ago when faced with some pressure over the nuclear issue. i think North Korea as of late has been taking a more concilliatory tact.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by sagefr0g

my first thought was well that Iran is doing some posturing.

Photo-shopped images -

July 10, 2008, 9:16 am

In an Iranian Image, a Missile Too Many

By Mike Nizza and Patrick Witty

In the four-missile version of the image released Wednesday by Sepah News, the media arm of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, two major sections (encircled in red) appear to closely replicate other sections (encircled in orange). (Illustration by The New York Times; photo via Agence France-Presse)

Latest update at 3 p.m. Eastern Agence France-Presse has retracted the image as “apparently digitally altered.” More developments at the bottom of the post.

As news spread across the world of Iran’s provocative missile tests, so did an image of four missiles heading skyward in unison. Unfortunately, it appeared to contain one too many missiles, a point that had not emerged before the photo was used on the front pages of The Los Angeles Times, The Financial Times, The Chicago Tribune and several other newspapers as well as on BBC News, MSNBC, Yahoo! News, NYTimes.com and many other major news Web sites.

MORE-

[aslan]

Originally Posted by sagefr0g

haven't check all those links. my first thought was well that Iran is doing some posturing. sort of like how male animal species when they are squaring off against one another sometimes in preparation for a real fight sometimes not.
also it reminded me of how North Korea shot off a missile or two not to long ago when faced with some pressure over the nuclear issue. i think North Korea as of late has been taking a more concilliatory tact.

We had better hope the far right is not correct in it's assessment of the current situation.

Not to mention names, some on the far right are comparing Ahmadinejad to Hitler in 1938. They say that if the world had taken Hitler out in 1938 it might have saved the lives of 50 million people. They say the West is just as they were then--wrapped up in soccer games, the latest movie or clothing fad, TV shows, a new car, the NFL, etc.--and so they will ignore any real threat and approve policies of appeasement.

Churchill, they say, saved England, but after the war they kicked him out and went back to their liberal ways, ruining the country as they have.

They say Ahmadinejad will do anything to usher in the 12the Imam, a religious figure allegedly hidden away for centuries, who will come back and establish Islam throughout the world, Iran being at the head in his belief --a third reich if you will. They say he will nuke the "little Satan," Israel, and later the "big Satan," America, will be destroyed.

They say the Bedouins are 10 times smarter than the western liberals who sympathize with the Arab world. They will use western sympathizers, then subjugate them when they achieve power.

The difference between now and 1938, they say, is that the Jews will not allow themselves to be passively taken away. They predict an Israeli attack on Iran shortly after the election, if the U.S. does noes not attack by then, that will likely set back the Iranian nuclear program 10 or 15 years. As it stands, they say Iran is a year or so away from nuclear capability.

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by aslan

We had better hope the far right is not correct in it's assessment of the current situation.

..... As it stands, they say Iran is a year or so away from nuclear capability.

something tells me they'd best be a quick draw unless they wanna end up mince meat.

[aslan]

Originally Posted by sagefr0g

something tells me they'd best be a quick draw unless they wanna end up mince meat.

When a person believes himself destined to play a world-changing role (and I'm not saying he does), he'd likely go up against Quick Draw McGraw himself!

[zengrifter]

Let me say it one more time: Iran has every right to develop nuclear energy. Iran, UNLIKE ISRAEL, is a signatory of the Non Proliferation Treaty.

Afterall, if Iran wasn't to be trusted by the West, tell me how/why Cheney's Halliburton could sell them so much nuclear power technology, and for so long?

Anyone? zg

[QFIT]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

Let me say it one more time: Iran has every right to develop nuclear energy. Iran, UNLIKE ISRAEL, is a signatory of the Non Proliferation Treaty.

Afterall, if Iran wasn't to be trusted by the West, tell me how/why Cheney's Halliburton could sell them so much nuclear power technology, and for so long?

Anyone? zg

The world is running out of oil. Iran wants to switch from oil to nuclear technology. And we are demanding that they keep burning oil. Strange thinking.

The US last month ran military exercises near Iran, 12,000 miles from the US. They are wise. Israel ran military exercises as a practice for an invasion of Iran. They are wise. Now Iran runs a military exercise, over its own country, and somehow they are evil. Strange thinking.

Politicians wanting to scare the public claim that the Middle East does not need nuclear power because they have oil. Actually, the most valuable commodity in the Middle East is water, not oil. Most of the ME has been desert land the last few thousand years. The huge underground aquifers are drying up (like Vegas.) With little arable land, oil has been one of their few resources. And the ME knows that oil will not last forever. To see a future, they must transform their land. There is only one way. Desalinization. They have lots of salt water. The problem is that it takes vast amounts of electricity to convert salt water to drinking water. And there is only one way to obtain that power. Nuclear. It must be understood that nuclear power is the future in the Middle East. It must be understood that they don’t trust the West (given a century of reasons for mistrust) and must be in control of their own resources. So now we must find ways of assuring that they get what they need for survival, without obtaining the nuclear WMD that we have. We need to talk – not sing “bomb, bomb, bomb – bomb, bomb Iran.”

[Automatic Monkey]

We need to bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran until they have a reason to talk. Otherwise you find yourself in the position of the chicken negotiating with the fox over what is for dinner. An aggressor (any Muslim culture) will not negotiate in good faith except to avoid and undesirable or feared outcome.

Iran is currently run by a messianic, Hitler-like personality who's stock in trade is threats and who's proximate goal is to use nuclear weapons and wastes to intimidate his neighbors. Iran does not need desalinization any more than we do. They have rain forests there.

[QFIT]

Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey

We need to bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran until they have a reason to talk. Otherwise you find yourself in the position of the chicken negotiating with the fox over what is for dinner. An aggressor (any Muslim culture) will not negotiate in good faith except to avoid and undesirable or feared outcome.

Iran is currently run by a messianic, Hitler-like personality who's stock in trade is threats and who's proximate goal is to use nuclear weapons and wastes to intimidate his neighbors. Iran does not need desalinization any more than we do. They have rain forests there.

Iran's leader is no more a messianic, Hitler-like personality than Bush. Bush said that god told him to invade Iraq. Iran hasn't invaded anyone. The remainder of your post is ethnic prejudice and clearly shows that you have the aggressive nature.