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Old July 10th, 2008, 03:05 PM
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Can the "real deal" AP with a balanced -4/5 with five rounds to play 8D turn game into value plays? Is there A "Player" back counting anywhere that would find this as an opportunity? Many times I have played $5-500 max table because same conditions as $50 min tables. Same dealer's just changing tables. Their cut goes with them. Pen is dealer dependent. Many Saturday night's I observe better $5.00 tables than $50 min. Players spread min to max without one discussion between PC's and Dealers in the break room. Most of the time I know what the latest discussions are throughout day. It's getting to the point I don't even ask my horses on a regular basis because I know now that I would have received a call within the hour. To date, I have attained 2 dealer's jobs at the Wynn in Vegas. I have only sent them two "naturals" with GQ looks, ability and social skills. Increased their income more than $50,00 a year. Currently I have two more in training. I have them currently learning craps. Their managed progress during the next 6 months will lock-in local survival and open up greater opportunity in Vegas. I receive $1,500 from client and give anyone I send $500 pre-trip expenses without bayback if they fail to attain job. I coud butcher them up for less... shopping strip I'll participate once more on their behalf, wait 6 months talking too and monitoring their drive/motivation and send them to Wynn. I have to cash in some grren stamps and get some white hair's hair's making introduction calls
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Old July 10th, 2008, 04:46 PM
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Are you on drugs?
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Old July 10th, 2008, 05:26 PM
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Or Mickey Spillane?
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Old July 11th, 2008, 12:19 PM
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I read your post backwards and it makes more sense.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 01:08 PM
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Can the "real deal" AP with a balanced -4/5 with five rounds to play 8D turn game into value plays? Is there A "Player" back counting anywhere that would find this as an opportunity? Many times I have played $5-500 max table because same conditions as $50 min tables. Same dealer's just changing tables. Their cut goes with them. Pen is dealer dependent.


At this point I am just about understanding you (sort of) though wonging and playing $5 to $500 max instead of $50-$500 are different subjects, but hell, none of us are really sure what the subject, point or whatever here is. So, we all can get the idea that if the $5 table has better conditions, why play the $50? Pen, off course, is important but you still have to look overall. In other words, in many casinos the table is full for $5 and you might get a heads up game for $50 even with a little less pen. You are a player!



Many Saturday night's I observe better $5.00 tables than $50 min. Players spread min to max without one discussion between PC's and Dealers in the break room. Most of the time I know what the latest discussions are throughout day.


What is a player doing in the breakroom? Could the usual procedure at this place, put checking spreads in the hands of the eye? No, you are a casino employee!





It's getting to the point I don't even ask my horses on a regular basis because I know now that I would have received a call within the hour. To date, I have attained 2 dealer's jobs at the Wynn in Vegas. I have only sent them two "naturals" with GQ looks, ability and social skills. Increased their income more than $50,00 a year. Currently I have two more in training. I have them currently learning craps. Their managed progress during the next 6 months will lock-in local survival and open up greater opportunity in Vegas. I receive $1,500 from client and give anyone I send $500 pre-trip expenses without bayback if they fail to attain job. I coud butcher them up for less... shopping strip I'll participate once more on their behalf, wait 6 months talking too and monitoring their drive/motivation and send them to Wynn. I have to cash in some grren stamps and get some white hair's hair's making introduction calls

Now I got it. You are a player/casino employee/ independent recruiter/dealing school master/motivator who when Wynn needs dealers they happen to call. Or you perhaps need to either get off of those drugs or get a perscription change.
Finally, if you did ask your horses, would they answer you?

Still need to know about getting some white hair's hair's with grren stamps?
Also does a shopping strip have anything to do with shopping naked?

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Old July 11th, 2008, 02:19 PM
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wow. I want to personally thank everyone for their participating with most positive comments. First time I get to participate with ducks in a blackjack forum. I find it hard to believe not one person received any value .

In an attempt to explain post, I'll tell you what I was thinking about on every comment I made. Just ask.

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Old July 11th, 2008, 02:26 PM
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wow. I want to personally thank everyone for their participating with most positive comments. First time I get to participate with ducks in a blackjack forum. I find it hard to believe not one person received any value .

In an attempt to explain post, I'll tell you what I was thinking about on every comment I made. Just ask.

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Old July 11th, 2008, 02:59 PM
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Now I got it. You are a player/casino employee/ independent recruiter/dealing school master/motivator who when Wynn needs dealers they happen to call.
No, but I think he knows the dealers and is trying to recruit us. Here's my attempt at a translation.

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Can the "real deal" AP with a balanced -4/5 with five rounds to play 8D turn game into value plays? Is there A "Player" back counting anywhere that would find this as an opportunity?
Translation: "I am aware a large number of people will claim to be able to beat this system, but I am looking for someone who actually can do this: is there a money-making opportunity if an AP backcounts an 8D shoe and finds the true count to be -4 or -5 with about 5 rounds to play?"

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Many times I have played $5-500 max table because same conditions as $50 min tables. Same dealer's just changing tables. Their cut goes with them. Pen is dealer dependent. Many Saturday night's I observe better $5.00 tables than $50 min.
Translation: "I have often played at lower limit tables because often the dealers that deal the deepest are at lower limit tables; I find that I am able to make more money spreading $5 to $500 than at a $50 table because of good penetration."

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Players spread min to max without one discussion between PC's and Dealers in the break room. Most of the time I know what the latest discussions are throughout day. It's getting to the point I don't even ask my horses on a regular basis because I know now that I would have received a call within the hour.
Translation: "I know several dealers who call me whenever dealers and pit critters are talking about me in the break room. If I don't get calls from them, I know nobody's talking about me. I get away with spreading from the table minimum to the table maximum."

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To date, I have attained 2 dealer's jobs at the Wynn in Vegas. I have only sent them two "naturals" with GQ looks, ability and social skills. Increased their income more than $50,00 a year. Currently I have two more in training. I have them currently learning craps. Their managed progress during the next 6 months will lock-in local survival and open up greater opportunity in Vegas.
Translation: "I have successfully planted two dealers at the Wynn in Las Vegas who have good looks, dealing ability, and social skills. I supplement their income by $50,000 a year in return for their information. I'm training two other craps dealers. The skills I teach them will ensure long-term survival."

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I receive $1,500 from client and give anyone I send $500 pre-trip expenses without bayback if they fail to attain job. I coud butcher them up for less
Translation: "For this service, I charge applicants $1,500 but I will refund $500 for expenses if they fail to attain a job. This is very generous; I could get away with a much harsher offer.

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shopping strip I'll participate once more on their behalf, wait 6 months talking too and monitoring their drive/motivation and send them to Wynn.
Translation: "I'll use my contacts to shop them as dealers in Strip casinos. After 6 months of monitoring their progress, I send them to the Wynn."

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I have to cash in some grren stamps and get some white hair's hair's making introduction calls
Translation: "I take a lot of psychedelic drugs before I post on the Internet."
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Old July 11th, 2008, 06:22 PM
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If so, what exactly happened to that distant uncle that I didn't know I had.

Oh, and where is my $13,000,000?

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Old July 11th, 2008, 06:35 PM
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If so, what exactly happened to that distant uncle that I didn't know I had.
Ooooh! We must be related! When's the reunion????
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