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July 17th, 2008, 03:05 PM
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Card counting in quebec
Three locations, Hull (lac-lemay) (across the bridge from Ottawa), Montreal and Charlevoix casino. They are great to play in because you never get any heat. The dealers don't even beleive it is possible to count cards, so nobody ever looks for counters. Here are the rules:
Main floor:
-Tables as low as 10$-500$ and 25$-500$
-8 decks
-Split up to 4 hands
-Doubles after splits
-Dealer hit soft 17
-PLay up to 3 hands
-Double on anything
-Only one card after splitting A's
-80-85% penetration
High limit area:
-Tables 50$-1000$ AND 100-2000$
-6 decks
-Split up to 4 hands
-Doubles after splits
-Dealer stands all 17's
-PLay up to 3 hands
-Double on anything
-Only one card after splitting A's
-75-80% penetration
I also have to mention that there are NO CSM in hull(lac lemay) I don't know about the other ones. The main floor use ASM and high limits is hand shuffled
Everyone should come and play, no stress and a great enviroment. PLease tell me if I forgot anything, thanks.
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July 17th, 2008, 08:17 PM
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WOW!!!!!!!
Haxilla, this must be the promise land for card counters.
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July 17th, 2008, 08:22 PM
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also for those impatient noobies who saw the movie 21 and just cant wait to get started on the easy road to riches.  the gambling age is 18 in quebec, 19 in ontario. And for those who play video poker on the side, full payouts on all jackpots. (no holding 20% for your uncle) On the down side, those who drink either for cover or to drown your sorrows, No comped drinks! apparently against canadian law.
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July 17th, 2008, 08:36 PM
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July 18th, 2008, 08:32 AM
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Haxxilla a couple of questions for you.
Have you been to all three casinos, they are very far apart?
What is the max bet which you have placed in them?
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July 22nd, 2008, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SystemsTrader
Haxxilla a couple of questions for you.
Have you been to all three casinos, they are very far apart?
What is the max bet which you have placed in them?
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No I haven't been to all three. But they are all runned by the same people, goverment operated, so I asume they all run the same. The highest limits I've seen in hull (where I play) is 2000$ for the public. I was told that private rooms can be opened with a limit of up to 45 000$ on one hand. They were telling me stories about some big shot asian guy who was playing this high.
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July 22nd, 2008, 04:51 PM
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CBJN shows they cut 2 decks off of the 6 deckers, for a 66% pene, not the 85% you talk about. HUGE difference between those two numbers. One is very good, the other is just about worthless.
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September 4th, 2008, 09:41 PM
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lol they dont beleive counting exists!?!? that is just retarded. that cant be true cus otherwise they'd probably have 6 decks or less
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September 9th, 2008, 02:07 PM
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I play 3 to 5 times a week at the Casino de Montreal. Table minimums are 15, 25, 50.
I play straight and strict BS for their game (6D, DOA, DAS, no surrender, S17)
I play mostly on the 15$ min tables, and some 25$ if it's past 3 am and they shut down the 15's.
Dealers are friendly, apt, and most are very well versed pro's (and straight from what I can tell).
Heat = minimum to none. The pit bosses just seem to hang around, only time I've ever seen them grief anyone it was for non-game play related issues: vulgarity, people arguing over seat markers, ect...)
The penetration is not great. Its avg 2 decks. 1 burn card, but I'm not counting yet, I'm still perfecting my basic game.
It gets really busy around 9pm on weekends and yr gonna have stand around a while if you want a permanent seat at a 15$ table, but if your bankroll can handle it, play the 25 and 50$ tables, they always have room to get in right away and there's always at least one that totally empty. I see a lot of heads up 1 on 1 play.
This casino is quite enjoyable. The staff are polite and fully bi-lingual. The dealers range in age from 20's to 50's but they are all well trained and skilled, and from the very open conversations (in front of the pit bosses) that I've had and heard with some of the older ones, they're pro's (I know for sure at least 5 or 6 of them keep count and study them game intensely). They deal fast and make no mistakes in count and payout.
If you can play here, I recommend it. I've made and continue to make a healthy supplement to my annual income there and I know for sure that they know I'm a system player by now. Too many dealers have commented on and complimented my play and discipline at their tables....which is nice...there's a lot of bad players here, I think they let the system players slide cause they rake it in off the wannabes and gamblers.
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September 29th, 2008, 11:09 PM
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Lac leamy counting
Hey i too started counting cards at lac leamy and your right no heat at all making good money this month. Maybe we should join up and rake in the $$$$
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