Dealers training!

[blackchipjim]

I happend to be at the joint the other day and was let in on a little inside info. The local joints are training their dealers to recognize aps and what we do. I asked for what reason but the dealer couldn't really tell because she didn't know yet. I think this laughable to say the least considering that dealers are already overworked and underpaid. The higher ups are getting more and more paranoid as time goes on and this is just the first step. blackchipjim

[callipygian]

Originally Posted by blackchipjim

The local joints are training their dealers to recognize aps and what we do. I asked for what reason but the dealer couldn't really tell because she didn't know yet.

Nothing but good will come out of this.

I already sense waning motivation on the dealers' part.

[ricopuno]

Casino workers here in Ontario , Canada are on strike right now!!!!!!!!!

[jimpenn]

I recently read an article about this same subject. The casino was offering a bonus of $300 to any dealer that notified PC's concerning suspected counter's who they catch after reviewing tapes.

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by jimpenn

I recently read an article about this same subject. The casino was offering a bonus of $300 to any dealer that notified PC's concerning suspected counter's who they catch after reviewing tapes.

lol makin bounty hunters out of the dealers.

[ihate17]

I think this is pretty funny. At best they will tell dealers early in the course that counters are stiffs, so perhaps a few ploppies who just happen to be cheap and get lucky will suddenly find their way to the list of advantage players.
They will tell the dealers to look for bet spread. Just how many Asian players have we seen without a bet spread? How many players will steam?

Experience has led me to believe that the vast majority of pits do not know basic strategy. Some may consider the guy splitting 9,9 vs 8 or 9 an idiot but some may consider him an expert. If the course is taught by someone with expertize then the dealers will be pointed toward the most common deviations from basic strategy. The guy who hits his 16 vs 10 but sometimes does not. The guy who hits his 12 vs 2 or 3 but sometimes does not.

Just based upon dealer mindset (an easy couple hundred bucks) and the number of real AP's out there, we will see them doing many many tape reviews and perhaps finding an amatuer counter once or twice. If they figure the amount of man hours wasted, the thing will go away quickly.

My reccommendation: Throw a toke out for the dealer fairly early in your session and if he is inclined to play pick a counter, it will be someone else. Remember most dealers can not recognize a player who plays basic strategy from an average player.

ihate17

[Kasi]

If I was a dealer I'd make the AP play and turn every single player in and wait for $300 to come back my way lmao.

[The Seer]

In the movie Croupier, the hero has been a dealer in South Africa and he is trying out in England against a stopwatch to play hands from a shoe. He hits each spot as if the player knows basic stradgy and the boss then asks the dealer the count.


I thought all dealers kept count. Is this true?


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159382/

[ihate17]

Originally Posted by The Seer

In the movie Croupier, the hero has been a dealer in South Africa and he is trying out in England against a stopwatch to play hands from a shoe. He hits each spot as if the player knows basic stradgy and the boss then asks the dealer the count.


I thought all dealers kept count. Is this true?


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159382/

The job of the dealer is to deal. He also keeps an eye on the bets making sure no one ads or subtracts to their bets after cards are coming out. Of course he is also protecting the rack. Counting cards has never been a part of a dealer's job but a few who count when they play will count when they deal.
The other thing is that if you ask dealers for advice you will discover that most of them, if they play the way they tell you to play, are horrible blackjack players. They learn to deal at dealing school but they learned to play from the terrible players at their tables.
Not only this but most pits do not count either.

ihate17