FL Tables Illegal!

[jimmtech]

Found this link at advantageplayer.com:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080703/.../indian_gaming

Will Florida tables be temporary?

[FLASH1296]

It matters not a whit what the court has to say.

The Seminoles are a sovereign nation within our borders. Theory aside,
"Facts on the Ground" indicate the BJ games will be there forever.

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Are you aware that the U S A is still (technically) at war with the Seminole Nation,
as no treaty following the Three Seminole Wars was ever signed?

[Blue Efficacy]

Originally Posted by FLASH1296

It matters not a whit what the court has to say.

The Seminoles are a sovereign nation within our borders. Theory aside,
"Facts on the Ground" indicate the BJ games will be there forever.

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Are you aware that the U S A is still (technically) at war with the Seminole Nation,
as no treaty following the Three Seminole Wars was ever signed?

You're wrong, tribes still have to follow state and federal laws. But they are free to set their own local ordinances.

[johndoe]

In general, tribes don't have to follow state laws (maybe FL is special), but without exception they must follow all federal laws.

[FLASH1296]

Apparently you guys are oblivious to the semi-legal concept of "facts on the ground" vs. what is legal (in theory)

I personally witnessed a standoff at a casino on a reservation that straddles the Canadian border.

There had been illegal casinos, (and drug-smuggling, aliens entering the U S A, etc. etc.) Then Governor Rockefeller ordered in the Stae Police to shut down the casinos.

The Indians barricaded the roads and met the State Police with a hail of gunfire. Four people were wounded. The Governor ordered them to back off.

On that same reservation today there is a legal casino, but the road signs that WARN the F.B.I. I.R.S. State Police, etc. that they are unwelcome and should turn around and leave -- still are there; at least as recently as last year.

An old acquaintance of mine was beaten very badly by a Native American at Foxwoods Casino in Connecticut and was in I.C.U, for over 2 weeks with internal injuries and fractures. His brother is in attorney in Connecticut. He had no recourse.

Native American tribes as recently as this year have had several incidents of outright cheating by their casinos, including the use of marked cards. No actions could be taken by those whose losses were substantial.

I could go on for hours about this, but this is way too long as it is.

[HockeXpert]

Although the State may consider BJ illegal in Florida, the US Department of the Interior recognizes it as legal because it is entered in the Federal Register. This situation is very similar (for those of us old enough to remember it) to the fight for desegregation of schools back in the 50's. Fortunately for us, the Federal Government will prevail. The State is waiting for the next Legislative session to renegotiate the terms of the "illegal" compact with the Seminoles which will make the games legal again in the State's eyes.