Wake up

[unknown_aussie]

Come on guys, WAKE UP! Accept the fact that there is NO betting system that works. Period.

You suck or have minimal success at card counting, probably because you refuse to stick with the rules, and lost when you bet big on high count, so you fall back to betting systems. Accept the facts. Card counting works, betting systems do not.

I apologise to the mods for this rant.

[Harman]

Originally Posted by unknown_aussie

Come on guys, WAKE UP! Accept the fact that there is NO betting system that works. Period.

Amen to that, I'm sick of people trying to persuade us that they have successful betting methods that defy all odds and mathematics.
Quote from Shadroch:
No matter how you vary your bets,if the game has negative expectations,you will end up losing in the long run.

[sagefr0g]

a betting system is bound to fail if you apply it like a mindless robot just as an advantage system is bound to win big bucks when applied like a mindless robot. as Sharock says that's the nature of playing without an edge or with an edge. let's just not forget there is always a maybe involved in the above considerations. some cluless guy with a betting system just might win some ridiculously high amount of loot that he could play his ass off for the rest of his life and never lose it all just as some brilliant advantage player could play according to 'hoyle' for almost a lifetime and lose some incredibly large bankroll that he started out with. certainly not a likely scenerio but let be honest and admitt it's possible.
so but this is the voodoo forum. a terminology i was once resolute against but now see the wisdom of. here you can talk about doing stupid things and not so much have to worry about it. lol.
here you can make silly analogies of blackjack results to quantum mechanical results such as in quantum mechanical tunneling where a lesser energy can and does overcome a higher energy. maybe dream that the impassable edge the casino has against you can be overcome by your lesser edge. casino's after all are a part of the physical world just as electrons and such are. not to mention the human mind. let's not forget that a caveman armed with a spear against a raging tiger has a pretty good chance to come out ahead. even though the tiger is a natural born instinctual killer of emense physical prowess while the caveman is physically relatively a wimp. lol.
so but those are just silly propositions that mean nothing just maybe a word to the wise lol.
it's maybe something to know for those that don't such as was i that there are all kinds of options, possibilities and frames of mind that one can approach the game with other than the orthodox known AP approachs to the game. it bandied about on the advanced strategies forum that there exists methods of play that hold forth furthur advantages than those commonly known amongst those in the orthodox community that don't know lol.
so maybe at some point a player might get to a point where they think "ok i know all this commonly known orthodox stuff and i know there is more but no one is going to let on about it so hey it's up to me to figure it out myself" maybe you'll stumble upon something new, maybe not. maybe it'll be fun trying, maybe not. lol.
so but Harman and unkown_aussie i didn't see a response from either of you in the poll:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=10749
i'd just be curious if you were constrained to those parameters what you would do? no big deal don't bother if it's beneath you. lol

[Licentia]

Originally Posted by Harman

Amen to that, I'm sick of people trying to persuade us that they have successful betting methods that defy all odds and mathematics.

According to all known laws of aviation there is no way a bee should be able to fly. A bee's wing is too short and their bodies too fat. Bees, of course, fly anyway, because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.

According to all known laws of gambling mathematics, there is no other possible methods of beating the game of Blackjack than those that are presented on this website. But the strategies do exist, and those strategies don't care what the "experts" think is impossible. Nor do I quite frankly.

Licentia

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by Licentia

According to all known laws of aviation there is no way a bee should be able to fly.

That’s a typical response from someone who doesn’t understand what they’re talking about. We’ve been through this already on this website:

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?p=6983

As ususal, you're talking about a topic that you haven't researched at all...and it never ceases to make you look foolish. Welcome back.

-Sonny-

[callipygian]

Originally Posted by Sonny

We’ve been through this already

I didn't see this link posted. More proof that the laws of aviation do, in fact, say bees can fly.

http://www.pnas.org/content/102/50/18213.full.pdf+html

[Licentia]

Originally Posted by callipygian

I didn't see this link posted. More proof that the laws of aviation do, in fact, say bees can fly.

http://www.pnas.org/content/102/50/18213.full.pdf+html

Maybe they have it figured out now, but it just goes to show us how much there is to learn.

Licentia

[callipygian]

Originally Posted by Licentia

Maybe they have it figured out now, but it just goes to show us how much there is to learn.

... or, more precisely, how much you have to learn.

Using bad physics to back up bad math isn't helping your case.

[Licentia]

Originally Posted by callipygian

... or, more precisely, how much you have to learn.

Using bad physics to back up bad math isn't helping your case.

I sure missed you guys!

Licentia

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by Licentia

Maybe they have it figured out now, but it just goes to show us how much there is to learn.
Licentia

what can you tell us about your specially adapted Martingale?
i mean things like how is it expected to behave as far as reaching some goal in some amount of time or something like that. what percentage of sessions can one expect to win or lose? what kind of game is it best for? what do you expect risk of ruin-wise? does one play it like a mindless robot or is some amount of judgement needed? does the system employ stop loss or stop win points? is it meant to be a long term method of play or maybe a stop gap measure should you reach some goal? what are the why's and where fores of the answers to any of these questions?