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Old July 24th, 2008, 02:59 PM
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Default Win/lose ratio for BS

Where can I find the % of winning hands you get just playing pure perfect BS?

Assuming 10,000 hands, dealer stands on all 17s, DAS, 3:2 BJ, 6 decks and late surrender.

Its not 50/50 is it?
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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:03 PM
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Closer to 43%. 48% you lose,the rest you tie.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:04 PM
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Here you go:

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=7446
http://www.blackjackincolor.com/truecount5.htm

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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:09 PM
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Hm, only 43% win?

Why does the house always have an advantage in this game?
They are pretty limited on what they can do, they cant split or anything.

Maybe there is room for improvment in basic strategy?

How can I check that the decisions you make using basic strategy are really the best choice?

I mean idk about you guys, but when it comes to my money I dont think I just wanna take a charts word for it...
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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:25 PM
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Hm, only 43% win?
Yup. The house is going to win 48% of the hands you play and there’s not much you can do about it.

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Why does the house always have an advantage in this game?
Because the player automatically loses if he busts, even if the house busts too. The house has the advantage because the player has to act first.

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How can I check that the decisions you make using basic strategy are really the best choice?
You can compare the EVs of each play to verify that you are making the best decision. You can find the EVs for each hand here:

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/ev/ev.htm

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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:30 PM
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If BS you win 43% of the time what does that go up to if you play the I-18?
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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:46 PM
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If BS you win 43% of the time what does that go up to if you play the I-18?
I don't know. It probably doesn't change much. In fact, it might even decrease since you are doubling more often. Either way I don't think it will make much difference in the W/L percentages.

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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:52 PM
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-.- then the point of index plays are?
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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:54 PM
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-.- then the point of index plays are?
save you and make you money when your betting up according to the count for the positive matices. just they raise your ev for a set of hands for a given count. so in the negative counts you might lose a little less.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:56 PM
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-.- then the point of index plays are?
To earn more money, not to win more hands. When you double down you will win less often because you only get one more card, but when you win you will win twice as much. The win percentage goes down but the advantage goes up. The EV charts above will indicate this.

The hit/stand indices will help you win more often but I don't know how much of an overall effect they have.

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