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Old July 24th, 2008, 09:51 PM
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Yeah, so KO uses a different system than hi-lo, "unbalanced" so that you do not need the true count, just the running count.

For a 6 deck shoe though, how can I calculate the TC from KO? Like in KO I know when to bet but I wish to know at what point in KO is it TC + 4 TC +2 and TC 0.

Is there a formula?

also is the TC + 4 in the hi-lo the point at which you have a 1.5% advantage?

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Old July 25th, 2008, 08:14 AM
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Yeah, so KO uses a different system than hi-lo, "unbalanced" so that you do not need the true count, just the running count.

For a 6 deck shoe though, how can I calculate the TC from KO? Like in KO I know when to bet but I wish to know at what point in KO is it TC + 4 TC +2 and TC 0.
The strength in using an unbalanced count is not having to convert the RC to TC...so why would you want to?

Have you gotten the book yet?

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Old July 25th, 2008, 09:15 AM
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The point at which your advantage is 1.5% will depends on what your initial disadvantage is off the top of the game. This will differ according to the rules of the particular game. Generally a 6 deck game should have a ball park initial disadvantage in the neighborhood of -.5% (atlantic city 6 deck is -.41%) From there your advantage increases roughly .5% per true count using hi-lo. so yes, at +4 you should be in the neighborhood of +1.5% unless the game has poor rules to begin with.
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Old July 25th, 2008, 09:48 AM
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Have you gotten the book yet?

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Yep its coming tomorrow :P

I got the KO book, whats a good book for Hi-lo?
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Yep its coming tomorrow :P
Congratulations! Good luck with it
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Old July 25th, 2008, 11:07 AM
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I just wanted to know the specifics of the KO system.

For instance, in the hi-lo system I know that for every +1 TC, you gain a .5% advantage, but in the KO system all I am told is to keep this running count and when it hits this point bet bigger....

But I would like to know what each +1 RC is doing to my advantage?
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Old July 25th, 2008, 11:10 AM
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jeez man just learn High Low and forget KO. You seem confused with it, which is bad, and you also seem prepared to make calculations for a TC, so just switch? That's my advice
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I want to >< but i already spent money on the KO book :P...

What book is good for hi-lo?
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Old July 25th, 2008, 11:19 AM
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Google.

You can find so much info on card counting it's unbelievable!!!
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Old July 25th, 2008, 11:27 AM
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What book is good for hi-lo?
The Free Counting Resources thread has lots of good info on HiLo. The Gamemaster's BJ School is a good start. The Frequently Asked Questions thread also has some info on indices, betting and playing styles for HiLo.

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