Very important question!

[captainil]

Hi, I have a question and I need your help guys.
Lets say I'm going to the casino and this is how I bet:

First bet: $10 - LOSE
Second bet: $20 - LOSE
Third bet: $30 - LOSE
Fourth bet: $100 - WIN.

Is there something wrong with that? will the dealer\casino stop me?
I appriciate your help.
Thanks.

[Sonny]

No they won't stop you. Why would they? The casinos love to see people using progression systems like that because they know it causes the players to lose more money.

-Sonny-

[captainil]

Originally Posted by Sonny

No they won't stop you. Why would they? The casinos love to see people using progression systems like that because they know it causes the players to lose more money.

-Sonny-

Are you sure?
Let me ask again, lets say I bet like that:

First: $10
Second: $20
Third: $30
Fourth: $100
Fifth: $200
Sixth: $400
--Until here I invested $750.
Seventh: $250 (Because my budget is $1000)

I want to take the risk that if I lose 7 times straight I lost $1000.
Are you sure this is acceptable and I won't be kicked of the casino?

[Sonny]

I'm absolutely positive it is acceptable in a casino. People do it all the time and the casinos love. The casino has the advantage, so betting more money will only lose more money for the player. If you don't believe me, read some of these articles:

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=7109

-Sonny-

[Cardcounter]

If you are willing to risk a $1,000 to win $10 you will win most of the time but the times that you do lose will take at all your gains and than some lets say you win $10 *.98=$9.80 in wins of the time and lose 1000*.02= $20 in loses for a total loses of $10.20. You win 98% of the time but still lose more money in the long run. How much you win is very important in the odds.

[captainil]

Originally Posted by Cardcounter

If you are willing to risk a $1,000 to win $10 you will win most of the time but the times that you do lose will take at all your gains and than some lets say you win $10 *.98=$9.80 in wins of the time and lose 1000*.02= $20 in loses for a total loses of $10.20. You win 98% of the time but still lose more money in the long run. How much you win is very important in the odds.

First: $10 - LOSE
Second: $20 - LOSE
Third: $30 - LOSE
Fourth: $100 - WIN
*Until here i'm +$70*
First: $10 - LOSE
Second: $20 - WIN
*Until here i'm +$80*
First: $10 - WIN
*Until here i'm +$90*
First: $10 - LOSE
Second: $20 - LOSE
Third: $30 - LOSE
Fourth: $100 - LOSE
Fifth: $200 - BLACKJACK
*Until here i'm +$230*

My fourth bet is my most important bet. I prefer to win on fourth bet (+$70) than winning regular on Fifth\Sixth\Seventh bet.
My purpose is to earn $300 each casino. It can take 10\20\30 minutes or 1 hour or a little bit more.
Is this a fantasy? I'm going to try this next week for 2 hours straight + counting for better odds.
You really can't find a working system to win money in Blackjack for 100%.. you must remember you're gambling anyway.

[jimmtech]

I have tried many such progression systems. You get on a roll and win and win and win. I started with a couple hundred and worked it up to over $7000 in about 2 years. Then all of of sudden, it would not work any more - all the tweaking in the world did not help.

This is the way it works:

1) You start winning, and you keep winning

2) You lose a few and start tweaking your system

3) Nothing works and you begin losing and losing; searching for that special
magic you discovered and its no where to be found

If you don't believe me, buy the blackjack program CVBJ (www.qfit.com)

You can program almost every conceivable BJ option (decks, rules, penetration, players, etc.)

Practice your game on this program - keep track of your winning sessions - (CVBJ will do it for you) - I have gone over 40 winning sessions in a row - then all of a sudden you will have a catastrphic session you cannot recover from.

Progressions are like heroin or meth - you'll get high as kite initially and think you're on top of the world, then it will destroy you!

[captainil]

Originally Posted by jimmtech

I have tried many such progression systems. You get on a roll and win and win and win. I started with a couple hundred and worked it up to over $7000 in about 2 years. Then all of of sudden, it would not work any more - all the tweaking in the world did not help.

This is the way it works:

1) You start winning, and you keep winning

2) You lose a few and start tweaking your system

3) Nothing works and you begin losing and losing; searching for that special
magic you discovered and its no where to be found

If you don't believe me, buy the blackjack program CVBJ (www.qfit.com)

You can program almost every conceivable BJ option (decks, rules, penetration, players, etc.)

Practice your game on this program - keep track of your winning sessions - (CVBJ will do it for you) - I have gone over 40 winning sessions in a row - then all of a sudden you will have a catastrphic session you cannot recover from.

Progressions are like heroin or meth - you'll get high as kite initially and think you're on top of the world, then it will destroy you!

You just said you did it for over 2 years and earned about $7000.
But then after who knows after how much blackjack shuffles you lost.. so you should've lost $1000 after you made $7000.. am I right?

Anyway I bought that CVJB program and i'm training and can't find myself losing with that system for over hours of playing. (Maybe I won't be unlucky and play in that rare date which you need to lose 7 times straight, who knows heh)
By the way, what should I do when the game is TIE? ...';'

[jimmtech]

Take the advice from the Advantage Players on this forum - progressions do not work - you will eventually lose all your money and more!

or

practice on CVBJ

keep track of your sessions

I doubt that you will go more than 40 winning sessions in a row

and then you will begin losing and losing

These losses that will occur on CVBJ will eventually happen in the casino - losing lots of real cash is a much harder pill to swallow than discovering your system does not work..


I no longer advocate progressions - betting per the count (or knowing specific or general deck composition) is the only way to ensure you will win over time...

[callipygian]

If you double your bet after every loss, you will have an (n-1)/n chance of being up by 1 unit, and 1/n chance of being broke, where n is the table max divided by your minimum bet.