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July 28th, 2008, 07:18 PM
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Shuffle team play #1
Hi guys,
Here is my shuffle team play.
1) My wife will count the cards that are being dealt ( an ordinary count from 1 to 26. 26 is half a deck ) in this way I will know the exact # of half decks that has been dealt.
2)Once 26 cards ( half a deck) has been dealt my wife will signal me to inform me that half a deck has been dealt and at that moment I will insert my right hand inside my pants and I will write the running count for that deck.
3) During shuffle I will go to the toilet and plug in those running count in the algebraic formula I created specifically for the type of shuffle that our local casino use.
What do you guys think?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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July 28th, 2008, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ricopuno
2)Once 26 cards ( half a deck) has been dealt my wife will signal me to inform me that half a deck has been dealt and at that moment I will insert my right hand inside my pants and I will write the running count for that deck.
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You do that once, or for each 26-cards? zg
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July 28th, 2008, 07:43 PM
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So Close Yet So Far
Your formula?
How good is that?
It won't matter you wont have time anyway.
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July 28th, 2008, 08:01 PM
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for someone who discribed yourself as a newbie when you first posted 5 weeks ago after only your second blackjack experience, you seem to be moving in several different directions at lightning speed. Anxious to see the results of your labors. best of luck and keep us posted
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July 28th, 2008, 08:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricopuno
Hi guys,
Here is my shuffle team play.
1) My wife will count the cards that are being dealt ( an ordinary count from 1 to 26. 26 is half a deck ) in this way I will know the exact # of half decks that has been dealt.
2)Once 26 cards ( half a deck) has been dealt my wife will signal me to inform me that half a deck has been dealt and at that moment I will insert my right hand inside my pants and I will write the running count for that deck.
3) During shuffle I will go to the toilet and plug in those running count in the algebraic formula I created specifically for the type of shuffle that our local casino use.
What do you guys think?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You sure are going to be pissing a lot. You start sticking your hand down your pants and they will arrest you for being a pervet. Pocket pool is not a casino game it is only played in the privacy of ones own home.
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July 28th, 2008, 09:23 PM
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I think maybe you should stick around and see the shuffle and see how well the half decks end up where they are supposed to go, and how fine the riffles are. Of course, you will want to get back in time to see exactly where the cards are cut too. Oppps, I actually shuffle track so nevermind.
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July 28th, 2008, 09:23 PM
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I think you'll need to post some pics of your wife before we can decide how good this system works.
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July 28th, 2008, 09:27 PM
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Not sure about Inplay's assursion that pocket pool can only be played in ones home, as I believe there are those that even play "away" games.  However he does raise the point that constantly placing your hand in and out of your pocket doesnt appear the norm. They may think you have an electronic device or are pocketing chips. In addition, placing a pointed item such as a pen in one's front pocket can have painful consequences when making a hasty retreat from the casino. Just more thought for consideration.
Last edited by kewljason; July 28th, 2008 at 09:50 PM.
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July 29th, 2008, 03:40 AM
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How many threads are getting derailed at the moment because some of the more "senior" posters think that the question's silly? I've only looked through a few and every one i've looked at seems to be going that way.
Some people would do well to remember that they were beginners at one time too.
Ricopuno - what your talking about is basically map tracking, but with a device. If you use a computer to work out how you should play - even if you do it in the toilet - you are breaking the law and subject to harsh penelties.
More than that though, map tracking requires a very simple shuffle and a very very consistent dealer. They need to shuffle the cards in a near identical fashion every time, grabs the same size, splits the stack in the same proportions etc etc.
If you are interested in shuffle tracking, get your counting skills up to scratch first, make sure you can estimate the remaining cards to a 1/4 deck accuracy as a minimum (in fact i'd recommend an1/8 of a deck accuracy), then read Snyder's 'Shuffle Tracker's Cookbook'.
If you're not brillient at counting, you're going to lose a lot of money trying to shuffle track.
RJT,
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July 29th, 2008, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
I think you'll need to post some pics of your wife before we can decide how good this system works.
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And have her stick her hand down your pants instead. It's more fun that way.
Seriously, I have software that does the exact same thing, but requires an observer on a cell phone who is talking to a computer operator in some other place. It could be construed as illegal but it would be impossible to prove that I'm using a computer because the computer is thousands of miles away. All I'm using is a cell phone. This technique is only usable on a small minority of shuffles, and which shuffles they are and what makes them trackable is something we never talk about in public.
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